[globaloutlookDH-l] A proposal for a new working group

Dagmar Riedel islamicbookcensus at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 18:30:19 MST 2013


Another resource for practical matters may be people who are involved with
the IFCO
 who since 1988 have organized the delivery of humanitarian aid to Cuba and
the Caribbean, since the humanitarian aid includes PCs etc.
http://www.ifconews.org/node/235

Best regards
Dagmar Riedel


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ernesto Priego <efpriego at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is very interesting. You might find my friend Janet's project
> interesting, it's called ReStart and it encourages people to fix their own
> devices rather than promptly replacing them. I know it's a different idea
> to what you are discussing, but you might be curious as a parallel/related
> ongoing project:
>
> http://therestartproject.org/
>
> You can see her talk about the project in this TEDxBrixton video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1a8J1pmYQ
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Taylor,Laurie Nancy Francesca <
> laurien at ufl.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear Øyvind and all,
>>
>> These are great points, and a really useful discussion!
>>
>> Dan and I ended up chatting on this related to the Digital Library of the
>> Caribbean (dLOC) and the Protecting Haitian Patrimony Initiative (
>> http://dloc.com/l/info/haitianlibhelp) which emerged from dLOC partners
>> in Haiti and other dLOC partners after the earthquake.  dLOC partners have
>> extensive experience in collaboration, sharing information, working to
>> build capacity and community, and more. But, there were difficulties in the
>> process for Protecting Haitian Patrimony.  Difficulties are, in part, from
>> a lack of knowledge about how things can/should work and having to learn
>> when there's already an acute concern. The legal issues can be both real as
>> law and as policy at different institutions. These are all great things for
>> us to share knowledge about.
>>
>> Sharing many experiences would be very useful, from my perspective, for
>> helping to understand how things can legally be done, for policy-related
>> options at any single institution, and for times to partner when the
>> policies make sense for an institution only. Sharing information alone
>> would be great (e.g., example projects, anecdotal experience, concerns
>> raised during experiences, experts to contact for the process for certain
>> needs, experts for certain countries, etc.).
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Laurie
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca [mailto:
>> globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Øyvind Eide
>> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:52 PM
>> To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
>> Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] A proposal for a new working group
>>
>> Dear Dan,
>>
>> I think it is a good idea, and it should be followed up. Based on my own
>> experiment (mainly Russia in the nineties and Zimbabwe more recently) there
>> are some issues you should consider (which you may already have, of course)
>> -- but bear in mind, this is all anecdotical, so take it as that:
>>
>> * Dumping. How would this relate to local retailers of used stuff? Of
>> course, this is for free, but if you pay for transport, are we giving money
>> to DHL which could have been given to a local street corner shop? The ratio
>> value vs. transport cost is vital here. If transport cost is nil the ratio
>> is pretty high, but if money will change hands, checking if they can end up
>> with local businesses is a good thing.
>>
>> * Legal issues, especially for equipment from the US. We did not buy
>> stuff from Dell to be used in Zimbabwe because they were on in the Axis of
>> Evil. I am not claiming that embargoes should never be broken and I have
>> done my bit of "idealistic smuggling". But I would not like to see some mid
>> level manager with no role in this suddenly finding her or himself in
>> problems because a contract signed with Dell (as an example) is broken.
>>
>> * I trust you would not fail on this one, but with a number of years of
>> experience in the flea market "business": remember the difference between
>> used stuff and garbage...
>>
>> * For web mirroring the problem I have seen a few times is very low
>> capacity of oversea connections, but decent capacity within the parts of
>> the country networked. So serving the home country of the university can
>> often be done from there, whereas for international users a foreign mirror
>> could be very valuable.
>>
>> I wish to repeat that this is all anecdotical based on my own experience,
>> and not based on any real overview of this area.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Øyvind
>>
>> On 4. des. 2013, at 22:59, Daniel O'Donnell wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Laurie Taylor and I have just been talking about the idea of setting up
>> a new working group at DH: a group focused on ways of facilitating
>> donations of equipment or sharing services. The impetus for this comes from
>> two projects we are thinking of at the U of L. One is to collect and donate
>> computers that are being decommissioned this coming spring university wide
>> (we got a grant to replace a large number of computer lab and faculty
>> workstations); the other is some web mirroring that we are looking into
>> doing for a university that doesn't have a very robust infrastructure.
>> Laurie also knew of examples of donations of computing equipment in the
>> past to Haiti, for example.
>> >
>> > This may be is a little bit more straight aid than is the norm for
>> GO::DH (which is primarily not about aid but about sharing knowledge,
>> research, and experience every which way). But it also may be something we
>> may be able to help each other in: there are some logistics involved that
>> people who've done this before elsewhere might be able to help advice on
>> for example; there also may be a need to fundraise for certain
>> opportunities.
>> >
>> > What do others think? Any interest and/or experience?
>> >
>> > -dan
>> > --
>> > ---
>> > Daniel Paul O'Donnell
>> > Professor of English
>> > University of Lethbridge
>> > Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4
>> > Canada
>> >
>> > +1 403 393-2539
>> >
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