[globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Alex Gil colibri.alex at gmail.com
Fri Jul 25 11:23:57 MDT 2014


That sounds great, Isabel! I will move this conversation off this list, so
those who want to talk about the DH whisperer's and translation toolkit can
continue to do so.

I will start a new thread later this afternoon, with what has been said so
far.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, igalina <igalina at unam.mx> wrote:

>  Sorry for jumping in so late into the discussion. At the RedHD we
> developed a database of DH projects and used Dublin Core fields with some
> adjustments for DH projects. I then worked with Quinn from DH Commons to
> map out the fields we were using to the DH Commons database. Our idea was
> to find a way so that the DH Commons would harvest our database
> periodically (as opposed to having a centralized system where we used the
> DH Commons interface to add new projects). We thought this could then be
> used as a prototype for other people around the world who had their own
> databases but wanted to contribute to a central database. And for those
> that didn't have their own system they could use the DH Commons one
> directly.
>
> Quinn and I then both had babies and so the project was put on standby but
> I would be more than happy to provide the documentation that I have about
> the RedHD database and the mapping if this could be of use. I would also be
> interested in participating in this initiative.  I don't know if Quinn is
> on this list.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Isabel
>
>
>  ----------
> Dra. Isabel Galina Russell
> Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas,
> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM)
> igalina at unam.mx
> @igalina
>   ------------------------------
> *De:* globaloutlookdh-l <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca> en nombre de
> Ernesto Priani <epriani at gmail.com>
> *Enviado:* viernes, 25 de julio de 2014 09:52 a.m.
> *Para:* guzzettg at gmail.com; A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global
> Outlook Community
> *Asunto:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
>
>  I agree with Giorgio about the option of rethinking the way the
> presentation are given. I had a little chat with Alex Gil in Lausana about
> the way in which the poster season could be multilingual. We don't go to
> far , but it`s posible to have the poste in spanish, for example, and
> material in other languages, or a whisper fellow helping you.
>
>  e
>
>
> 2014-07-25 3:06 GMT-05:00 Giorgio Guzzetta <guzzettg at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear all,
>> this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to
>> engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or
>> two quick consideration out of the box:
>>
>> -a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for
>> multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The
>> Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the
>> number of people walking around with the badge at the conference,
>> which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing,
>> I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would
>> be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using
>> a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also
>> interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step
>> further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on
>> multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for
>> instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it
>> was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be
>> one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk
>> could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than
>> full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One
>> part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be
>> aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with
>> whispering and other on-site "tools".
>>
>> - following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper
>> could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at
>> the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar
>> is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why
>> not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering
>> eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference,
>> to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel,
>> giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to
>> propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in
>> order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of
>> simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a
>> global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected
>> discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven
>> hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected
>> discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to
>> open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the
>> conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and
>> more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden,
>> judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In
>> short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways
>> of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more
>> participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.
>>
>> -speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we
>> should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an
>> issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic
>> implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier
>> than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction
>> between local/regional and global, or something like that)
>>
>> Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after,
>> Giorgio
>>
>> On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul <paul.spence at kcl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact
>> that
>> > there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each
>> > other’s experiences.
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> > From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca] On
>> > Behalf Of Neil Fraistat
>> > Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36
>> > To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
>> > Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
>> >
>> > Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have
>> to
>> > be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel
>> Galina
>> > is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell
>> and
>> > Laurent Romary).
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Neil
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani
>>  > <epriani at gmail.com<mailto:epriani at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Hi Everybody
>> >
>> > For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part
>> of
>> > that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It
>> > would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .
>> >
>> > e
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul
>>  > <paul.spence at kcl.ac.uk<mailto:paul.spence at kcl.ac.uk>>:
>> >
>> > It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware
>> that
>> > it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global
>> outlook’
>> > means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of
>> > initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from
>> slightly
>> > different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go
>> > (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco
>> > recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be
>> a
>> > very good idea.
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------
>> > Paul Spence
>> > Senior Lecturer
>> > Department of Digital Humanities
>> > King's College London
>> > 26-29 Drury Lane
>> > London
>> > WC2B 5RL
>> >
>>  > paul.spence at kcl.ac.uk<mailto:paul.spence at kcl.ac.uk>
>> > http://www.kcl.ac.uk/artshums/depts/ddh/research/index.aspx
>> > Twitter: @dhpaulspence (English)/@hdpaulspence (castellano)
>> >
>> > From: globaloutlookdh-l
>>  > [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca<mailto:
>> globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca>]
>> > On Behalf Of Alex Gil
>> > Sent: 24 July 2014 01:59
>> > To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
>> >
>> > I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping
>> network
>> > the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is
>> where
>> > the minimal metadata standard would be useful.
>> >
>> > A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all,
>> > either.
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan
>>  > <daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>> > I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to
>> > collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH
>> through
>> > their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: globaloutlookdh-l
>>  > [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca<mailto:
>> globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca>]
>> > on behalf of Neil Fraistat
>>  > [nfraistat at gmail.com<mailto:nfraistat at gmail.com>]
>> > Sent: July-23-14 11:44
>> >
>> > To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList
>> > Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
>> >
>> > Alex and all,
>> >
>> > My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register
>> > projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service
>> well
>> > and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced
>> for
>> > registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT
>> > will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.
>> >
>> > I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work
>> with
>> > GO::DH on this.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Neil
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil
>>  > <colibri.alex at gmail.com<mailto:colibri.alex at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons
>> > tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera.
>> The
>> > other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task
>> of
>> > expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks,
>> > individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a
>> register of
>> > dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition
>> overnight,
>> > but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a
>> global
>> > stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I
>> have
>> > already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for
>> DH
>> > project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to
>> > absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place
>> to
>> > build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the
>> > world.
>> >
>> > My two cents,
>> > a.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega
>>  > <elikaortega at gmail.com<mailto:elikaortega at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!
>> >
>> > Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is
>> precisely
>> > the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations
>> that
>> > are beyond our linguistic knowledges.
>> > And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great
>> idea. I
>> > wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least
>> on
>> > the part of multilingualism.
>> > All the best!
>> > Élika
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan
>>  > <daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>> > If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely
>> > interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic.
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: globaloutlookdh-l
>>  > [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca<mailto:
>> globaloutlookdh-l-bounces at uleth.ca>]
>> > on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro at uma.es<mailto:nro at uma.es>]
>>  > Sent: July-23-14 4:42
>> > To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList
>> > Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
>> > Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.
>> >
>> > I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate
>> > contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on
>> > a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the
>> > challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of
>> > that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international
>> > realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more
>> > understandable.
>> >
>> > Warmly.
>> >
>> > Nuria
>> >
>> >
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>> > On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:
>> >> I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a
>> >> translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to
>> >> contribute also.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell
>>  >> <daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission
>> >>> to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on
>> >>> PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles
>> >>> about the organisation of the field.
>> >>>
>> >>> -dan
>> >>>
>> >>> On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative
>> >>>> in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >> http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/
>> >>>> [3]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about
>> >>>> multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading
>> >>>> her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>> A.
>> >>>>
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