[globaloutlookDH-l] Monocultures of the (digital) Humanities

Alex Gil colibri.alex at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 14:28:32 MDT 2015


Great comment, Ernesto! I liked Crane's response too. Very generous. I hope
the debate continues! Soon we will launch a new site, part of one of our
new working groups: The Translation Toolkit. I'm sure we'll be quoting
amply from these debates!

Onwards!
a.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Ernesto Priego <efpriego at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Ernesto Priego <efpriego at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> It's a really great post that deserves comments.
>>
>> I left a comment with added hyperlinked references on Monday. It was
>> retained for moderation, and from my mobile it does not appear there. This
>> often stops me from commenting, as it has happened to me various times in
>> different venues.
>>
>> Moderation is no doubt needed and useful but 'long' delays in moderation
>> discourage discussion as momentum is everything. Readers have other stuff
>> to do than checking if our comments get approved and published eventually
>> (I appreciate authors also have other things to do than moderating
>> comments...)
>>
>> In this day and age of savage attention competition delays can kill
>> engagement.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ernesto
>>
>> Sent from a mobile device. It may contain typos.
>> On 22 Jul 2015 21:21, "laraxowo" <laraxowo at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
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>>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
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>>> Øyvind Eide <lister at oeide.no> wrote:
>>> Dear Domenico, Alex, and all,
>>>
>>> I think this is exactly the point. Many (all?) of us have experienced
>>> situations where multi-linguality led to ghettoisation — not the least at
>>> conferences.
>>>
>>> If working models of real time translation can be shown — and I believe
>>> we now have the tools and ideas making that quite likely — then those
>>> experiences can be countered by different ones.
>>>
>>> It will be extremely interesting to see what the call for papers for the
>>> first Nordic conference next year will lead to. Five countries, five
>>> currencies (of which one suspended from international trade), a population
>>> of some 25 million all together. A lot of diversity — but everybody (at
>>> least in academia) speaks and understands English. Will there be
>>> non-English papers? If so, can we make it worthwhile for international
>>> participants to attend them?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Øyvind
>>>
>>> 13. juli 2015 kl. 17:50 skrev Alex Gil <colibri.alex at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Dear Domenico,
>>>
>>> Just read your article and Crane's + the comments on Humanistica. Agreed
>>> on SCOPUS. Self fulfilling prophecy material at the behest of business
>>> interests.
>>>
>>> Very related to this conversation, I've been involved in heavy duty
>>> conversations these past few weeks on the oddly named MLMC and to a lesser
>>> extent the PC about language diversity, and I'm happy to report that we're
>>> making slow progress. Little by little we convince others that, and I quote
>>> the wonderful Glenn Worthey here, "we don't need to fight for the lingua
>>> franca." The lingua franca fights for itself. I know so many well meaning
>>> folks from outside and inside Europe and the US who defend the lingua
>>> franca model because they've had bad experiences with multi-lingual
>>> conferences or journals, or because they believe in a global community and
>>> think this is the only way to achieve one. We have to work with these folks
>>> to get them to see that we are talking about learning how to do translation
>>> right, and that true globality in the humanities is by definition, a new
>>> Babel--uncomfortable, but not crippling... Little by little. Your work with
>>> citations here is enormously helpful in this regard. Looking forward to
>>> your full article!
>>>
>>> a.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Domenico Fiormonte <
>>> domenico.fiormonte at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Dan and Frédéric.
>>>>
>>>> Scopus is to non-Anglophone Humanities like a pusher that keeps selling
>>>> cocaine arguing that the best way to detox is an overdose.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-07-13 15:55 GMT+02:00 Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell at uleth.ca>:
>>>>
>>>>> Just quickly, a really interesting paper, Domenico.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015, 18:57 Domenico Fiormonte <
>>>>> domenico.fiormonte at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for cross-posting.
>>>>>> I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection --
>>>>>> with some anticipation of a forthcoming study:
>>>>>> http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/
>>>>>> I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The
>>>>>> Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"),
>>>>>> but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places
>>>>>> would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario
>>>>>> (starting with the DH).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Domenico
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