[globaloutlookDH-l] [Redhd] DH organizations around the world

Alex Gil colibri.alex at gmail.com
Mon Jun 29 21:37:22 MDT 2015

I couldn't agree more with Domenico here. Translation is the key. And I
think you would agree that translation is not just translating words, but
cultures and intentions. I have done translation from English to english
many times, for example. Translation is the mis-en-relation of
interpretation. We often signal our allegiance to hermeneutics, but at the
end of the day, it is the shared hermeneutics, not the silent reader type,
that makes or breaks communities, and this is where the work of the noble
translators comes in. In translating each other is where I think we will
find our most sincere and realistic *pars construens.*

On that note, please welcome Scott Weingart to our conversations. Scott has
been producing some useful analysis of ADHO (and other DH) data for a
while. I'm hoping he can join this conversation with some of his recent

Best to all from Sydney,

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Domenico Fiormonte <
domenico.fiormonte at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gracias Isabel. Es un punto muy importante.
> And thanks Øyvind for remembering us of "power structures".
> In fact I'd like to comment briefly on Paul's observations and Alex's
> reply via a quote of Richard Hill, president of the Association for Proper
> Internet Governance and former ITU senior officer:
> "As a first step, it is important to recognise that power matters when it
> comes to the Internet, and to recognise that it is highly concentrated at
> present."
> ("The true stakes of Internet governance",
> http://www.tni.org/stateofpower2015)
> Of course DH issues are "small" in comparison to the problems of the
> Internet, but you can't avoid speaking of power (and resources) when
> dealing with structured organizations (including scholarly ones). The fact
> I can spend less than 1000 euros each *year* for all my
> research/travelling/ expenses or that our someone from Cuba have no
> research money at all cannot be ignored. "Where" and "what" often coincide.
> And who benefits from the present unbalance is also clear. Please let's be
> honest about this -- "as a first step".
> So, once again, the problem of governance/policymaking boils down to a
> problem of unevenly distributed resources which in turns produce
> undemocratic practices. Linguistic and cultural dominance through English
> language is not a mere or neutral instrument of this unbalance. I will
> return to this problem in a separate post as a response to Gregory Crane's
> article on "Big Humanities and DH in Germany", but in answering Øyvind's
> observations I'd like to say that the price paid to the dissemination of
> our ideas cannot lead to the extinction of less profitable languages and
> cultures. What we should do is much simpler and has been done for
> centuries: let's translate! I prefer the risk of being misunderstood in
> translation than the risk of seeing disappearing the need for translation.
> I've found these words referred to the famous work of African writer Ngũgĩ
> wa Thiong’o:
> "This is the dilemma of the African writer today: either he may use a
> European language and thus gain recognition (and financial reward) from a
> worldwide audience, but at the risk of cutting himself off from the very
> roots of all but the most esoteric creative flowering, the common
> experience of his own society; or he may use his own mother tongue,
> stoically shun the appeal of the world market, remain one of the inglorious
> Miltons of the present age, but help his own people’s advance into the age
> of mass literacy and pave the way for future achievements and renown."
> Dialogue through the "age old medium of translation", as Ngũgĩ writes in
> his book, is not only possible but necessary.
> So I'm not a pessimist. Despite this _pars destruens_  I've been always
> ready to give my "constructive" contribution: as some Red de HD friends
> know, I made several proposals for changing this situation in a forthcoming
> paper, and I hope I could share them on this (and other) list(s) very soon.
> All the best
> Domenico
> 2015-06-27 4:18 GMT+02:00 igalina <igalina at unam.mx>:
>>  This is a fascinating discussion. There are too many points to address
>> so I would just like to take up Domenico's remark about south-south
>> collaboration. One of the frequent ironies of research in the periphery is
>> that you have to go the centre to discover work being done in other
>> peripheries (sometimes even from your own periphery). It would be
>> interesting to map at some point I think, the *relationships *between
>> the different communities that Alex has mapped. Research projects for
>> example but there are probably other options for focusing on how we are
>> interacting not only with the center but also with each other.
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