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    Hi Ernesto,<br>
    <br>
    I think this actually exactly illustrates my point.<br>
    <br>
    I believe you would be an "unaware subject," or at the very least,
    that I would be doing observational or experimental work that
    required ethics approval and/or explicit permission to quote this
    email, if I decided to write "an academic paper about writing in
    English"... <i>especially</i> if your material was being quoted as
    an "exhibit" of any type of mistake. In my typology, this is because
    you are not contributing to this list in order to provide
    researchers with examples of non-native speaker academic English.<br>
    <br>
    However, I don't believe that you would be an "unaware subject" (or
    any kind of subject), but rather a coinvestigator, if I wanted to
    quote this email in a discussion of the ethics of quoting email
    because I wanted to engage with your point that "'public' and
    'private' are not clear-cut categories. There's room for complexity
    and exceptions." In this second case, I'd have said that quotation
    in that kind of context is an obviously foreseeable result and,
    indeed, that your email itself quotes others on the same topic for
    the same reasons.<br>
    <br>
    Barbara's point that it is good manners to check what I should do
    about any typos is obviously relevant. But, just to make things
    really complicated, let's say I contacted you to ask what I should
    do about the typos and you said I couldn't quote it at all. I'm
    afraid at that point I might not honour your request, especially
    since this email is part of a larger public conversation (and hence
    part of the public record). Otherwise, allowing you to selectively
    censor a public discussion could lead to all sorts of distortions
    later on in the account. History would come to an end if we gave the
    author of all records a veto on their use. Presumably in that case,
    the proper thing to do would cite your objection to the citation and
    provide an explanation as to why it is being reproduced: "Priego has
    indicated that this email does not adequately or fully represent his
    true position. It is being cited here because its formulation was
    extensively quoted in the subsequent discussion and shaped the
    subsequent debate."<br>
    <br>
    Anyway, you mentioned elsewhere that it might make sense to put in
    an explicit notice that this is a public, citable list. I'm good
    with that if others are. We have a list at the University here that
    is used in large part as a forum for commenting on the actions of
    the administration. Since it is unmoderated but the possibility
    exists that people might post things that are libelous, every
    message begins with the header "This is a publicly archived
    unmoderated list. Authors are solely responsible for the content of
    their postings."<br>
    <br>
    In this case a less scary thing might be: "Globaloutlookdh-l is a
    publicly archived academic listserv intended for discussion of
    issues regarding the global practice of Digital Humanities.
    Citations should be based on the archived text."<br>
    <br>
    -dan<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14-02-03 01:30 PM, Ernesto Priego
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      <p>Dear all,</p>
      <p>A final comment from me on this. I promise.</p>
      <p>I'd say that "public" and "private" are not clear-cut
        categories. There's room for complexity and exceptions. I
        understand that's a can of worms that might go beyond the scope
        of this (now clearly fully-citeable) discussion.</p>
      <p>As Isabel says a (sic) would be offensive. </p>
      <p>If something I quickly typed on the train (like this message
        right now) were to be cited in an academic paper about writing
        in English (a paper authored by a native English speaker
        addressing a majority of native English-speaking colleagues) I
        would be most-distressed to be exhibited making mistakes of any
        type. I'd much rather be asked directly so I can explain explain
        myself better.</p>
      <p>Then again that's just me. </p>
      <p>Best regards,</p>
      <p>Sent from my mobile</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 3, 2014 7:26 PM, "igalina" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:igalina@unam.mx">igalina@unam.mx</a>>
        wrote:<br type="attribution">
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style="font-size:12pt;margin:0;font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Dear
              Dan,<br>
              You have posed a most interesting question. Although I
              agree that writing to the person informing them that you
              want to quote them would be polite I must say that I too
              assume that when I write on a discussion list, it is
              public (unless specifically closed). Especially if you are
              going to be citing lots of different people writing to
              each person and obtaining their permission is equivalent I
              think of life before Creative Commons when the solution
              was to write to the copyright owner for permission to use
              the material. It gets very complicated very quickly.<br>
              As for the typos and mistakes in the emails,  I don't
              think that using [sic] is the solution. I don't know if it
              is just me but it seems offensive, especially given the
              context we are writing in. I like this idea of a footnote.
              <br>
              Best,<br>
              Isabel<br>
              <div>
                <p><br>
                </p>
                <div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px">----------
                  <div>Dra. Isabel Galina Russell</div>
                  <div>Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, </div>
                  <div>Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM)</div>
                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:igalina@unam.mx" target="_blank">igalina@unam.mx</a></div>
                  <div>@igalina</div>
                </div>
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              <p><br>
              </p>
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                <div dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt"
                    color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>De:</b>
                    globaloutlookdh-l <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca"
                      target="_blank">globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca</a>>
                    en nombre de Bordalejo, Barbara <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:bab995@mail.usask.ca" target="_blank">bab995@mail.usask.ca</a>><br>
                    <b>Enviado:</b> lunes, 03 de febrero de 2014 11:02
                    a.m.<br>
                    <b>Para:</b> A list for participants in the ADHO DH
                    Global Outlook Community<br>
                    <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] When citing
                    emails, do people silently correct typos?</font>
                  <div> </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div>Dear Ernesto, </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Although I agree with you on the fundamental
                    point that one should ask before quoting a listserve
                    post or an e-mail, I am not sure that I agree with
                    your reasons for that. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>We are all aware (or we should be aware) that
                    everything we post, anywhere on the internet, at any
                    point, could be retrieved by others. I have suffered
                    the consequences of using irony in a reply to
                    Humanist, which was then quoted (by a senior
                    scholar) as if I actually had meant my words
                    literally. Lesson 1: if you are going to use irony
                    make sure that others are aware of it but don’t be
                    surprised if someone ends up misinterpreting you. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>In the past, irritated by a rude message, I hit
                    reply and send a very angry answer to a colleague
                    which ended up distributed to a whole list. Lesson
                    2: Do not answer professional messages when angry.
                    If the anger is consuming you, at least, check who
                    the recipient is before sending. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Many years ago, when I started my MA, the
                    university’s guidelines suggested not to create an
                    account with a name like “partyanimal” or
                    “sexything.” I followed the instructions, it was
                    easy as I was neither of those. However, they forgot
                    to mention that if I ever signed an online petition
                    to get a desk for Dana Scully, eight years later my
                    students would still find the long lost site. Lesson
                    3: make sure that you are not ashamed of your TV
                    taste or that you don’t leave a trail of evidence
                    about it. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>The fact that Snowden only generated mild
                    discomfort rather than anger and mass protests,
                    shows that many people consider online information
                    to be public. I wouldn’t go as far. Not everything
                    should be public, but in practice many things are. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>When I want to make reference to an e-mail, post
                    or even a blog entry, I contact the author. I don’t
                    do this because I think that the person should know,
                    I do it because it is good manners and because I am
                    aware of the composition process of these types of
                    texts and want to make sure that the person meant
                    what I think he or she meant. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>So we agree, but we have different reasons to
                    think as we do. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>BB</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <div>
                    <div>On 3 Feb 2014, at 10:40, Ernesto Priego <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:efpriego@gmail.com" target="_blank">efpriego@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:</div>
                    <br>
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                          <div>
                            <div>Hey Dan,<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            I did not mean to say to that "the default
                            for contributions to public scholarly
                            listservs should be considered private", but
                            that the way one writes in an email is not
                            the way one would write on a public blog
                            post, or a journal article.
                            <br>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                          Not all listservs are alike, and some offer
                          public access to the archive, and others don't
                          (the latter require a membership).<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>So I see my replies (that are
                          conversational) between members in a given
                          email lsit as precisely in a grey area, where
                          I am not necessarily writing with the
                          awareness that I will be cited publicly by
                          others. If this happens on places like
                          Twitter, where people often get surprised to
                          discover the reach of their postings (because
                          they more or less assume, with different
                          degrees of self-conciousness, that their
                          postings are public), it seems reasonable to
                          me that when one feels one is chatting amongst
                          friends then discovering one has been cited
                          publicly (making typos for example) could be a
                          reason to be surprised.
                          <br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>If one wants to be really strict about it
                          yes, I believe that a listserv that will be
                          completely public should contain a terms and
                          conditions document stating that members are
                          OK with their postings a) being completely
                          public and b) being subject to citation,
                          reuse, etc. without previous consent. I am a
                          CC and OA advocate so I would be more than
                          happy to subscribe to that; I am saying this
                          because I am aware that perhaps this is
                          something that not everyone is conscious of
                          (otherwise there wouldn't be such panic
                          sometimes when some people discover Facebook's
                          or Tumblr's Terms and Conditions for example).
                          Maybe this sounds boring and paranoid, but if
                          email is going to be a form of publishing we
                          need to start thinking about the ways users
                          are expecting to license their postings.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>When I write these words, for example, I am
                          replying to you, Dan, knowing that everyone
                          else in the list will be reading, and that the
                          list is the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community.
                          My words are addressed to you and the list,
                          and even if in some region of my mind I am at
                          the same time aware these words might be read
                          by others outside this list, I am always
                          writing for this list. Otherwise I would just
                          post it elsewhere; my blog for example.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>If email listserv postings are going to be
                          subject to research by third-parties, then all
                          members need to be aware of that their right
                          to confidentiality is being waived. In the
                          majority of research surveys, respondents
                          should be fully informed about the aims of the
                          survey, and the respondent’s consent to
                          participate in the survey must be obtained and
                          recorded.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I am also saying this because not all
                          people are equally safe when being cited. This
                          means that some scholars can be very critical
                          publicly and face little risk, whilst other
                          scholars in other settings might be more
                          vulnerable. Often email listservs offer a
                          level of confidentiality (even if it is just
                          perceived as such) that the open web does not
                          offer (one can feel one is chatting in
                          cofindence, amongst friends, even if this is
                          not the case and one is going on the record at
                          all times).<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>So I'd say that when it comes to citing
                          what someone said in an email (to a listserv
                          or not) it's always better to be safe and ask
                          if it's OK to share/cite than sorry... but
                          that's just my personal opinion.<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Best,<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at
                          4:18 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <span dir="ltr">
                            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca"
                              target="_blank">daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hi Ernesto,<br>
                              <br>
                              I'm really not sure about your privacy
                              paragraph. It seems to me difficult to
                              believe that anybody posting to a publicly
                              archived list with an open membership
                              could understand what they are saying as
                              anything but meant for public consumption.
                              Does that mean, for example, that Humanist
                              is not a public record since it doesn't
                              explicitly say it is? That seems hard to
                              believe, since a lot of important things
                              happen there. I'd have thought the same of
                              this list.<br>
                              <br>
                              Moreover, it isn't a question of the "list
                              owner" having special privileges. Since
                              the records are publicly available to
                              anybody on the web, and were distributed
                              to all members of the list, anybody in the
                              world can cite anything sent to a public
                              email list. There's no additional level of
                              access that the owner has on a public
                              list.<br>
                              <br>
                              I can see a couple of places where there
                              might be an expectation of privacy or
                              where good manner might cede privacy to a
                              public posting.<br>
                              <br>
                              Listservs with a closed archive, for
                              example, might be considered prima facie
                              private, especially if the membership is
                              restricted and known. It is dangerous for
                              a writer to assume that something posted
                              to such a list will remain private. But I
                              can certainly see how one might be
                              ethically obliged to confirm with the
                              poster before citation. Even there,
                              however, the lists I'm on that are really
                              <i>meant</i> to be private indicate it:
                              our department list, for example, has a
                              header on every message that says the
                              contents of the list are to be considered
                              confidential and not to be redistributed
                              without prior permission.<br>
                              <br>
                              Even on an open list, it seems to me to be
                              good manners not to cite clearly
                              accidental postings--e.g. the kind of
                              private messages that people sometimes
                              send to a list in error. I don't think the
                              sender can have any expectation that a
                              publicly archived message-sent-in-error
                              like that will not be cited by anybody;
                              but it seems to me that the citer has a
                              duty in that case to check.<br>
                              <br>
                              But for most things on a public list, it
                              seems to me that the whole point of the
                              list is to build a kind of gray scholarly
                              literature: a lot of our discussions on
                              this list, for example, contain
                              discussions that are clearly meant to be
                              generalisable and influence debate (like
                              this conversation here, for example);
                              others, like announcements, cfps, job ads,
                              etc., are clearly meant to be
                              redistributed.<br>
                              <br>
                              Because it exists in a border area between
                              the formal and the informal (it is like
                              formal publication in that it is available
                              to the community--and probably more widely
                              read--but unlike it in that there is no
                              editorial process), I think we owe a duty
                              of respect to the people we cite, meaning
                              not to be too critical of word choice or
                              minor inconsistencies. But I know I've
                              never thought my participation on any
                              public scholarly email list (e.g. tei-l,
                              humanist, dm-l, digitalclassicist,
                              globaloutlookdh-l) was private.<br>
                              <br>
                              Do others feel that the default for
                              contributions to public scholarly
                              listservs is that they should be
                              considered private? I confess that had
                              never occurred to me before.<br>
                              <br>
                              -dan
                              <div>
                                <div><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div>On 14-02-03 07:14 AM, Ernesto
                                    Priego wrote:<br>
                                  </div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div> It is an interesting
                                            question. I suppose some
                                            minor typos resulting form
                                            typing too fast could be
                                            correced "silently". I do
                                            these typing mistakes all
                                            the time; especially when
                                            replying form a mobile
                                            phone.<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                          As for citing emails I would
                                          think a related question is
                                          equally important, that of
                                          privacy. Even for listservs, I
                                          assume we are saying some
                                          things "in confidence", i.e.
                                          we write and send certain
                                          things because we are writing
                                          them for and sending them to a
                                          particuar list which means
                                          particular receivers, even
                                          when we sometimes don't know
                                          who are all the members. It's
                                          not the same as when posting
                                          openly on Twitter for example,
                                          when one assumes it's all
                                          public and anyone can read and
                                          therefore cite.<br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        So before citing anything anyone
                                        said via email I would check
                                        with the sender if it's OK to
                                        cite them, unless there are some
                                        terms and conditions somewhere
                                        that say the owner of the list
                                        is entitled to cite any messages
                                        sent to the list.
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                      Best,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      e<br>
                                    </div>
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                                          </b>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat,
                                        Feb 1, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Daniel
                                        O'Donnell <span dir="ltr">
                                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca" target="_blank">daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">It
                                            really is pretty cool, eh?
                                            <div>
                                              <div><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div>On 14-02-01 02:43
                                                  PM, Yasmín S. Portales
                                                  Machado wrote:<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  <div>¡Me encanta esta
                                                    lista!<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"></span>
                                                    <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Yasmín
                                                          S. Portales
                                                          Machado</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">--------------------------------------</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Marxista,
                                                          Feminista y
                                                          Bloguera</span></p>
                                                      <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Twitter:
                                                          @nimlothdecuba</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Facebook
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663817529" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663817529</a></span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Mi
                                                          blog:
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://yasminsilvia.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://yasminsilvia.blogspot.com/</a></span></p>
                                                      <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Parte
                                                          de Proyecto
                                                          Arcoiris
                                                        </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Colectivo
                                                          LGBT,
                                                          anticapitalista
                                                          e
                                                          independiente,
                                                          de Cuba</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://proyectoarcoiris.cubava.cu/"
                                                          target="_blank">http://proyectoarcoiris.cubava.cu/</a></span></p>
                                                      <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Parte
                                                          de
                                                          Observatorio
                                                          Crítico de
                                                          Cuba</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">¡A
                                                          la izquierda,
                                                          pero por la
                                                          izquierda!</span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://observatoriocriticodesdecuba.wordpress.com/"
target="_blank">http://observatoriocriticodesdecuba.wordpress.com/</a></span></p>
                                                      <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">"El
                                                          feminismo ha
                                                          puesto en
                                                          evidencia,
                                                          mejor que
                                                          ninguna otra
                                                          corriente de
                                                          pensamiento,
                                                          tanto la
                                                          arbitrariedad
                                                          del
                                                          psicoanálisis
                                                          como la
                                                          insuficiencia
                                                          del marxismo,
                                                          es decir, ha
                                                          cuestionado
                                                          los dos
                                                          grandes
                                                          modelos
                                                          totalizadores
                                                          del siglo XX."
                                                        </span></p>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                                                          lang="EN-US">Carlo
                                                          Frabetti</span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div
                                                        style="border:none;border-top:solid
                                                        #e1e1e1
                                                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt
                                                        0in 0in 0in">
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
                                                          globaloutlookdh-l
                                                          [<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca" target="_blank">mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca</a>]
                                                          <b>En nombre
                                                          de </b>Daniel
                                                          O'Donnell<br>
                                                          <b>Enviado el:</b>
                                                          Saturday,
                                                          February 1,
                                                          2014 1:47 PM<br>
                                                          <b>Para:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca"
                                                          target="_blank">globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca</a><br>
                                                          <b>Asunto:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [globaloutlookDH-l]
                                                          When citing
                                                          emails, do
                                                          people
                                                          silently
                                                          correct typos?</span></p>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div> <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I like that idea for 3), though I think
                                                      I'll leave the
                                                      explanation in
                                                      now, because it
                                                      needs to go
                                                      through a press
                                                      and editors. I
                                                      confess, I don't
                                                      even like the idea
                                                      of correcting
                                                      them: that is what
                                                      email is.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </p>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal">On
                                                        14-02-01 11:34
                                                        AM, Nishant Shah
                                                        wrote:</p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Hey
                                                          Dan,<br>
                                                          This is a
                                                          great
                                                          question, and
                                                          one that a lot
                                                          of us working
                                                          with online
                                                          transcripts
                                                          and with
                                                          non-standard
                                                          Englishes
                                                          constantly
                                                          face.<br>
                                                          With a
                                                          collection I
                                                          was editing,
                                                          working with
                                                          writers from
                                                          Asia, Africa
                                                          and Latin
                                                          America, where
                                                          the writers
                                                          were not
                                                          native
                                                          speakers and
                                                          also not
                                                          professionally
                                                          used to
                                                          writing, we
                                                          faced a
                                                          similar
                                                          dilemma which
                                                          eventually, we
                                                          resolved in
                                                          the following
                                                          ways:<br>
                                                          1. Except for
                                                          when the
                                                          syntax was so
                                                          irregular that
                                                          the citation
                                                          was
                                                          unintelligible,
                                                          we contacted
                                                          the sources
                                                          and checked if
                                                          they want to
                                                          re-write it,
                                                          or if our
                                                          corrections
                                                          were still
                                                          representing
                                                          what they
                                                          meant.<br>
                                                          2. Like in
                                                          oral
                                                          ethnography
                                                          projects, we
                                                          retained the
                                                          irregularities
                                                          of 'written
                                                          speech', and
                                                          we used that
                                                          as a
                                                          precedence for
                                                          retaining
                                                          these
                                                          'errors'.<br>
                                                          3. With
                                                          different
                                                          registers in
                                                          the language,
                                                          we retained
                                                          them without
                                                          even
                                                          high-lighting
                                                          or italicising
                                                          or pointing
                                                          out those
                                                          irregularities,
                                                          because that
                                                          is a judgment
                                                          call we did
                                                          not want to
                                                          make, and we
                                                          also thought
                                                          that the onus
                                                          of bias was on
                                                          the reader.<br>
                                                          Hope this
                                                          helps resolve
                                                          some of your
                                                          queries,<br>
                                                          Warm regards<br>
                                                          Nishant<br>
                                                          On 01-02-2014
                                                          19:21, Daniel
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                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          have a
                                                          question for
                                                          advice from
                                                          this group
                                                          that might
                                                          have political
                                                          implications.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In an article
                                                          I'm about to
                                                          submit, I cite
                                                          a number of
                                                          discussions on
                                                          this list and
                                                          humanist about
                                                          the use of
                                                          language,
                                                          especially
                                                          English. The
                                                          authors are
                                                          both native
                                                          English
                                                          speakers and
                                                          non-native
                                                          speakers and,
                                                          as is typical
                                                          in emails,
                                                          there are a
                                                          number of
                                                          small typos.
                                                          solecisms, and
                                                          the like.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Currently, I
                                                          have a note at
                                                          the first
                                                          citation
                                                          indicating
                                                          that "as is
                                                          normal in as
                                                          conversational
                                                          a medium as
                                                          email
                                                          correspondence,
                                                          the quoted
                                                          passages have
                                                          small
                                                          typographical
                                                          errors and
                                                          other
                                                          solecisms.
                                                          These have not
                                                          been corrected
                                                          or otherwise
                                                          noted." My
                                                          reason for
                                                          this is that I
                                                          don't want to
                                                          put in a lot
                                                          of sic or
                                                          corrections in
                                                          square
                                                          brackets.
                                                          Although I'm a
                                                          terrible typo
                                                          offender
                                                          myself, the
                                                          case can be
                                                          more
                                                          politicised it
                                                          seems to me
                                                          when dealing
                                                          with
                                                          non-native
                                                          speakers. I'm
                                                          uncomfortable
                                                          acting either
                                                          as judge or,
                                                          worse, in my
                                                          case, calling
                                                          attention to
                                                          "errors"--especially
                                                          since I think
                                                          they are
                                                          really more
                                                          issues of
                                                          register than
                                                          actual errors.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I could
                                                          silently
                                                          correct them,
                                                          of course, as
                                                          well, but I
                                                          don't like
                                                          that either,
                                                          in case what I
                                                          think is an
                                                          obvious
                                                          correction
                                                          turns out to
                                                          misrepresent
                                                          something.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          What do other
                                                          people think?
                                                          I've seen <i>sic</i>
                                                          used before as
                                                          a form of ad
                                                          hominem attack
                                                          and so I
                                                          generally
                                                          really hate
                                                          using it if I
                                                          can avoid it.
                                                          But since it
                                                          also seems
                                                          nuts to pepper
                                                          the
                                                          correspondence
                                                          with square
                                                          brackets (and
                                                          since that
                                                          could have the
                                                          same effect as
                                                          a lot of
                                                          sics), I don't
                                                          want to do
                                                          that either. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Is there a
                                                          better
                                                          solution than
                                                          simply
                                                          flagging the
                                                          register
                                                          difference, as
                                                          I currently
                                                          do?<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                        <pre>-- </pre>
                                                        <pre>--- </pre>
                                                        <pre>Daniel Paul O'Donnell</pre>
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