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I've thought about this,and while my original comment was lighthearted, I think that someone somewhere will probably submit their thesis in this font (or a similar or derivative font), and that's a good thing. I'd bet money that someone will use the font for quotes from period texts in a thesis primarily in a more modern font.

What's the worst that can happen? A student submits their thesis in the font and most 'readers' have to use a screen reader? Sounds suspiciously like a return to the original context where many texts were read aloud for the benefit of those who could not read. 

If history has shown us anything it is that we can't foresee the future life of texts or their reproduction ("Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" anyone?).

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 23:50, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edu> wrote:
I can't tell if you're joking (as I hope) or actually for real worried about students submitting theses in secretary hand.

That said, everything I do conforms to the relevant standards. If you copy text out of my specimen PDF, paste it into Word, and change the font to Times New Roman, what you get is . . . just text.


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I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.

I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?

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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:
Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.

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Thanks but I cant open the file


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El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:

With the usual apologies for cross-posting:

Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.

I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.

When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.

At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!

The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:


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