Dear list,
please forgive me for rushing in, but I have been having some difficulties in finding people with corresponding experiences and willingness to share their thoughts:
When planning to set up a platform on which an international and interdisciplinary community of humanities researchers (most probably not all versed in digital technologies) is invited to exchange their ideas, questions, announcements around a certain thematic focus consisting in a "historically localizable" discourse (in this case the so-called "School of Salamanca" of the 16th and 17th centuries), what type of platform would you prefer, and why? Blog, Mailing list, Bulletin Board, Wiki, ...? How do you perceive access and participation thresholds, popularity/dissemination/visibility, feedback likelihood, etc?
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
- The same holds for wiki sites.
- Social networks like academia.edu, itergateway groups etc. depend on people to focus on one such network which might not be their favorite one, so a too large portion of interested persons is kept out.
- Bulletin Boards are a mess.
- Twitter messages are too short.
- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
On the other hand, when I have asked that same question on my facebook profile, the only response I did get was a suggestion to go for a blog. In other social networks or fora (academia.edu, community.itergateway.org, researchgate.net etc.) I did not get any reply at all (although some are watching/following the question).
I would be very grateful for any insights shared...
Best regards,
Andreas
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 Andreas Wagner Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
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- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
Mine too.
Have a look at sympa
Although primarily a sophisticated mailing list server, it has a nice Web interface.
Best regards
Janusz
On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:03 , Andreas Wagner Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
I find blogs not the right tool for community-building -- and possibly also becoming a bit old fashioned!
- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
Me too. :) But an arrangement that combines, or offers options of either, mailing-list and forum interfaces (e.g. Yahoo and Google Groups both do this, more or less) seems all right. Likewise, a forum that sends me email alerts about new posts or replies is OK.
Cheers, Carl
-- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com mailto:carl.anderson@unisabana.edu.co http://unisabana.academia.edu/CarlAnderson http://laclil.unisabana.edu.co/ Department of Languages & Cultures Universidad de La Sabana Chía, Colombia
I have some experience in building communities, and I'd say that you should always see the mailing list as core. This is because it pushes information out, but also because it serves as a locus of identity: while people complain about list traffic if it gets too high, they nevertheless do tend to subscribe. Lists like dm-l and globaloutlookdh-l even have people who subscribe and then set themselves to no mail!
In a modern community, I think you want to supplement the list with some other things and try, as much as possible, to see the different channels as different portals into roughly the same information set:
* You need a twitter feed, since many people follow things that way; * You should have a blog for larger items; personally, I'd try to encourage people to contribute guest postings to it, but I've found that hard. I've wondered about somehow using syndication capabilities as a way of capturing content. * You want a news service for community announcements--that does tend to get used if you promote it. * I'm less convinced that wikis work that well for most communities.
Ideally, all should be integrated: so blog posts should be announced on twitter and the mailing list; announcements should go to the mailing list and twitter and show up on the blog (maybe in a sidebar); I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to somehow capture the list traffic on the blog as well: perhaps by adding a page that includes the archive or posting a digest each day as a posting. But I've not worked out any good ideas on how to do that.
-dan
On 13-06-11 12:42 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:03 , Andreas Wagner Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
I find blogs not the right tool for community-building -- and possibly also becoming a bit old fashioned!
- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
Me too. :) But an arrangement that combines, or offers options of either, mailing-list and forum interfaces (e.g. Yahoo and Google Groups both do this, more or less) seems all right. Likewise, a forum that sends me email alerts about new posts or replies is OK.
Cheers, Carl
-- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea@carlaz.com mailto:carl.anderson@unisabana.edu.co http://unisabana.academia.edu/CarlAnderson http://laclil.unisabana.edu.co/ Department of Languages & Cultures Universidad de La Sabana Chía, Colombia
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I agree. Perhaps I´m an old fogie, but I can deal with mailing lists and never even look at Blogs! That said, a web page like face book is a nice web presence - as long as all the important messages come via a mailing list. That list can of course point to interesting things on the web page (for example one does not want to overburden one´s email service with huge attachments). Meg ________________________________________ From: dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca [dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Daniel O'Donnell [daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:52 PM To: dm-l@uleth.ca Subject: Re: [dm-l] Mailing List, Wiki, Blog or what?
I have some experience in building communities, and I'd say that you should always see the mailing list as core. This is because it pushes information out, but also because it serves as a locus of identity: while people complain about list traffic if it gets too high, they nevertheless do tend to subscribe. Lists like dm-l and globaloutlookdh-l even have people who subscribe and then set themselves to no mail!
In a modern community, I think you want to supplement the list with some other things and try, as much as possible, to see the different channels as different portals into roughly the same information set:
* You need a twitter feed, since many people follow things that way; * You should have a blog for larger items; personally, I'd try to encourage people to contribute guest postings to it, but I've found that hard. I've wondered about somehow using syndication capabilities as a way of capturing content. * You want a news service for community announcements--that does tend to get used if you promote it. * I'm less convinced that wikis work that well for most communities.
Ideally, all should be integrated: so blog posts should be announced on twitter and the mailing list; announcements should go to the mailing list and twitter and show up on the blog (maybe in a sidebar); I wonder if it wouldn't make sense to somehow capture the list traffic on the blog as well: perhaps by adding a page that includes the archive or posting a digest each day as a posting. But I've not worked out any good ideas on how to do that.
-dan
On 13-06-11 12:42 PM, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
On 11 Jun 2013, at 09:03 , Andreas Wagner Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de wrote:
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
I find blogs not the right tool for community-building -- and possibly also becoming a bit old fashioned!
- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
Me too. :) But an arrangement that combines, or offers options of either, mailing-list and forum interfaces (e.g. Yahoo and Google Groups both do this, more or less) seems all right. Likewise, a forum that sends me email alerts about new posts or replies is OK.
Cheers, Carl
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Dear list
Thank you for all your replies. They really gave me and us something to chew on. I suppose we will definitely revive a mailing list that is still "lying around" and is hosted by our university [1]; and we will see what additional steps we are going to take.
FWIW, the question in itself was a kind of empirical test - I have cross-posted the same question on different (academic and non-academic) social networks and fora, but - except for one suggestion on facebook - here, i.e. a mailing list, was the only occasion where I did get some feedback. If anyone is interested, I can provide more detail and links.
Thanks again, and best regards
Andreas
[1] http://dlist.server.uni-frankfurt.de/mailman/listinfo/salamanca
I'd be very interested in hearing your results. If you were interested, it might also be the kind of thing we'd publish at Digital Studies/Le champ numérique.
-dan
On 13-06-20 05:28 AM, Andreas Wagner wrote:
Dear list
Thank you for all your replies. They really gave me and us something to chew on. I suppose we will definitely revive a mailing list that is still "lying around" and is hosted by our university [1]; and we will see what additional steps we are going to take.
FWIW, the question in itself was a kind of empirical test - I have cross-posted the same question on different (academic and non-academic) social networks and fora, but - except for one suggestion on facebook - here, i.e. a mailing list, was the only occasion where I did get some feedback. If anyone is interested, I can provide more detail and links.
Thanks again, and best regards
Andreas
[1] http://dlist.server.uni-frankfurt.de/mailman/listinfo/salamanca
My personal favourites are web forums (they offer threading, usable archives, search interfaces, RSS-feeds, the option to give different "rights" to different people, direct messaging, ... ).
I haven't subscribed to a mailing list for ages, and I'm reading most of the mailing lists I'm subscribed to only about once a week.
These days I get most interaction on G+ (which does have "communities"), but that may be due more to the people interacting than to G+.
Best
Heinrich
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 "Heinrich C. Kuhn" hck@lrz.uni-muenchen.de wrote:
My personal favourites are web forums (they offer threading, usable archives, search interfaces, RSS-feeds, the option to give different "rights" to different people, direct messaging, ... ).
You have all this (perhaps without RSS feed and direct messaging) in the sympa mailserver recommended by me earlier.
What most forums (at least those I know) are missing is a convenient way to selectively quote other postings, which negatively affects exchange of views.
Regards
Janusz
Janusz: Thanks for the fast reply!
You have all this (perhaps without RSS feed and direct messaging) in the sympa mailserver recommended by me earlier.
At least RSS is essential for me, as it permits me to filter automatically with a rather fine granularity. (Yes, my preferences anre just *my* preferences.)
What most forums (at least those I know) are missing is a convenient way to selectively quote other postings, which negatively affects exchange of views.
I'm using YaBB. No problems with selective quotes there.
Thanks again, best wishes
Heinrich
On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 "Heinrich C. Kuhn" hck@lrz.uni-muenchen.de wrote:
Janusz: Thanks for the fast reply!
You have all this (perhaps without RSS feed and direct messaging) in the sympa mailserver recommended by me earlier.
At least RSS is essential for me, as it permits me to filter automatically with a rather fine granularity. (Yes, my preferences anre just *my* preferences.)
http://www.sympa.org/overview/features
RSS feeds show the latest lists and the latest messages for each list
What most forums (at least those I know) are missing is a convenient way to selectively quote other postings, which negatively affects exchange of views.
I'm using YaBB. No problems with selective quotes there.
Is there a demo version for experimenting?
In my opinion mailing lists are better than any forum on the condition that you use a decent software to read mail. If you read mail using some cumbersome Web interface then of course the situation is different. On the other hand almost all mailing lists have also some Web interfaces, so the comparison is not straightforward.
Best regard
Janusz
Dear Andreas, Regarding an academic community, I would personally prefer a) a mailing list to seriously discuss some topics, aided by b) a facebook group for quick news and comments
I suppose I am very old fashioned, but mailing lists are my definitive favourites. Sorry, but I was born in the 20th c. ;) - Blogs: I don't give a fig about blogs as a means of regular information. I do not follow any. Of course I read blog posts sometimes, when they are pointed out to me or when hey come up in a web search, but I do not *follow* any blog. - Wiki sites: I just don't trust them. - Social networks: you do have a point about the segmentation; I use Facebook a lot for both professional and personal contacts, and I have an academia.edu account, but I don't use it very actively and do not wish to have to follow news and posts on several networks. - Bulletin boards: they work well for some communities, but I don't feel that academic communities have the right balance of news and debates to work well on BB. - Twitter: not good for academic communities IMHO.
Interesting question, Andreas! :) Marjorie
On 11 June 2013 16:03, Andreas Wagner Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.dewrote:
Dear list,
please forgive me for rushing in, but I have been having some difficulties in finding people with corresponding experiences and willingness to share their thoughts:
When planning to set up a platform on which an international and interdisciplinary community of humanities researchers (most probably not all versed in digital technologies) is invited to exchange their ideas, questions, announcements around a certain thematic focus consisting in a "historically localizable" discourse (in this case the so-called "School of Salamanca" of the 16th and 17th centuries), what type of platform would you prefer, and why? Blog, Mailing list, Bulletin Board, Wiki, ...? How do you perceive access and participation thresholds, popularity/dissemination/**visibility, feedback likelihood, etc?
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but
they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
The same holds for wiki sites.
Social networks like academia.edu, itergateway groups etc. depend on
people to focus on one such network which might not be their favorite one, so a too large portion of interested persons is kept out.
Bulletin Boards are a mess.
Twitter messages are too short.
Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned.
Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
On the other hand, when I have asked that same question on my facebook profile, the only response I did get was a suggestion to go for a blog. In other social networks or fora (academia.edu, community.itergateway.org, researchgate.net etc.) I did not get any reply at all (although some are watching/following the question).
I would be very grateful for any insights shared...
Best regards,
Andreas
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Marjorie! You are indeed old fashioned. No twitter? #getwiththeprogramme ;-)
On 13-06-20 12:15 PM, Marjorie Burghart wrote:
Dear Andreas, Regarding an academic community, I would personally prefer a) a mailing list to seriously discuss some topics, aided by b) a facebook group for quick news and comments
I suppose I am very old fashioned, but mailing lists are my definitive favourites. Sorry, but I was born in the 20th c. ;)
- Blogs: I don't give a fig about blogs as a means of regular
information. I do not follow any. Of course I read blog posts sometimes, when they are pointed out to me or when hey come up in a web search, but I do not *follow* any blog.
- Wiki sites: I just don't trust them.
- Social networks: you do have a point about the segmentation; I use
Facebook a lot for both professional and personal contacts, and I have an academia.edu http://academia.edu account, but I don't use it very actively and do not wish to have to follow news and posts on several networks.
- Bulletin boards: they work well for some communities, but I don't
feel that academic communities have the right balance of news and debates to work well on BB.
- Twitter: not good for academic communities IMHO.
Interesting question, Andreas! :) Marjorie
On 11 June 2013 16:03, Andreas Wagner <Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de mailto:Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote:
Dear list, please forgive me for rushing in, but I have been having some difficulties in finding people with corresponding experiences and willingness to share their thoughts: When planning to set up a platform on which an international and interdisciplinary community of humanities researchers (most probably not all versed in digital technologies) is invited to exchange their ideas, questions, announcements around a certain thematic focus consisting in a "historically localizable" discourse (in this case the so-called "School of Salamanca" of the 16th and 17th centuries), what type of platform would you prefer, and why? Blog, Mailing list, Bulletin Board, Wiki, ...? How do you perceive access and participation thresholds, popularity/dissemination/visibility, feedback likelihood, etc? To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions: - Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference? - The same holds for wiki sites. - Social networks like academia.edu <http://academia.edu>, itergateway groups etc. depend on people to focus on one such network which might not be their favorite one, so a too large portion of interested persons is kept out. - Bulletin Boards are a mess. - Twitter messages are too short. - Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however. On the other hand, when I have asked that same question on my facebook profile, the only response I did get was a suggestion to go for a blog. In other social networks or fora (academia.edu <http://academia.edu>, community.itergateway.org <http://community.itergateway.org>, researchgate.net <http://researchgate.net> etc.) I did not get any reply at all (although some are watching/following the question). I would be very grateful for any insights shared... Best regards, Andreas -- Dr. Andreas Wagner Project "The School of Salamanca" Academy of Sciences and Literature, Mainz and Institute of Philosophy Goethe University Frankfurt http://salamanca.adwmainz.de Grüneburgplatz 1 (Pf 116, R. 2.455) 60629 Frankfurt am Main Tel. +49 (0)69/798-32774 <tel:%2B49%20%280%2969%2F798-32774> Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org <http://digitalmedievalist.org> News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gidI320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca <mailto:dm-l@uleth.ca> Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-lDigital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
I am indeed, for some things :)
On 20 June 2013 20:17, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:
Marjorie! You are indeed old fashioned. No twitter? #getwiththeprogramme ;-)
On 13-06-20 12:15 PM, Marjorie Burghart wrote:
Dear Andreas, Regarding an academic community, I would personally prefer a) a mailing list to seriously discuss some topics, aided by b) a facebook group for quick news and comments
I suppose I am very old fashioned, but mailing lists are my definitive favourites. Sorry, but I was born in the 20th c. ;)
- Blogs: I don't give a fig about blogs as a means of regular information.
I do not follow any. Of course I read blog posts sometimes, when they are pointed out to me or when hey come up in a web search, but I do not *follow* any blog.
- Wiki sites: I just don't trust them.
- Social networks: you do have a point about the segmentation; I use
Facebook a lot for both professional and personal contacts, and I have an academia.edu account, but I don't use it very actively and do not wish to have to follow news and posts on several networks.
- Bulletin boards: they work well for some communities, but I don't feel
that academic communities have the right balance of news and debates to work well on BB.
- Twitter: not good for academic communities IMHO.
Interesting question, Andreas! :) Marjorie
On 11 June 2013 16:03, Andreas Wagner <Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de
wrote:
Dear list,
please forgive me for rushing in, but I have been having some difficulties in finding people with corresponding experiences and willingness to share their thoughts:
When planning to set up a platform on which an international and interdisciplinary community of humanities researchers (most probably not all versed in digital technologies) is invited to exchange their ideas, questions, announcements around a certain thematic focus consisting in a "historically localizable" discourse (in this case the so-called "School of Salamanca" of the 16th and 17th centuries), what type of platform would you prefer, and why? Blog, Mailing list, Bulletin Board, Wiki, ...? How do you perceive access and participation thresholds, popularity/dissemination/visibility, feedback likelihood, etc?
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but
they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
The same holds for wiki sites.
Social networks like academia.edu, itergateway groups etc. depend on
people to focus on one such network which might not be their favorite one, so a too large portion of interested persons is kept out.
Bulletin Boards are a mess.
Twitter messages are too short.
Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned.
Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
On the other hand, when I have asked that same question on my facebook profile, the only response I did get was a suggestion to go for a blog. In other social networks or fora (academia.edu, community.itergateway.org, researchgate.net etc.) I did not get any reply at all (although some are watching/following the question).
I would be very grateful for any insights shared...
Best regards,
Andreas
-- Dr. Andreas Wagner Project "The School of Salamanca" Academy of Sciences and Literature, Mainz and Institute of Philosophy Goethe University Frankfurt http://salamanca.adwmainz.de
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This discussion is very well-timed for me.
We are about to publish a group of texts http://www.ancientwisdoms.ac.uk/ We will date-stamp our editions, since we have no further funding to continue work on the project. But we do expect further responses/improvements/information. I'm proposing to open a blog, accessible from the site, and linked to the text for which I am responsible: I expect to invite, and post, comments for ?5 years - by which time the landscape will doubtless be very different (and I will be retired!)
Does that sound sensible/useful?
Charlotte
On 20 Jun 2013, at 19:15, Marjorie Burghart wrote:
Dear Andreas, Regarding an academic community, I would personally prefer a) a mailing list to seriously discuss some topics, aided by b) a facebook group for quick news and comments
I suppose I am very old fashioned, but mailing lists are my definitive favourites. Sorry, but I was born in the 20th c. ;) - Blogs: I don't give a fig about blogs as a means of regular information. I do not follow any. Of course I read blog posts sometimes, when they are pointed out to me or when hey come up in a web search, but I do not *follow* any blog. - Wiki sites: I just don't trust them. - Social networks: you do have a point about the segmentation; I use Facebook a lot for both professional and personal contacts, and I have an academia.eduhttp://academia.edu/ account, but I don't use it very actively and do not wish to have to follow news and posts on several networks. - Bulletin boards: they work well for some communities, but I don't feel that academic communities have the right balance of news and debates to work well on BB. - Twitter: not good for academic communities IMHO.
Interesting question, Andreas! :) Marjorie
On 11 June 2013 16:03, Andreas Wagner <Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.demailto:Andreas.Wagner@em.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote: Dear list,
please forgive me for rushing in, but I have been having some difficulties in finding people with corresponding experiences and willingness to share their thoughts:
When planning to set up a platform on which an international and interdisciplinary community of humanities researchers (most probably not all versed in digital technologies) is invited to exchange their ideas, questions, announcements around a certain thematic focus consisting in a "historically localizable" discourse (in this case the so-called "School of Salamanca" of the 16th and 17th centuries), what type of platform would you prefer, and why? Blog, Mailing list, Bulletin Board, Wiki, ...? How do you perceive access and participation thresholds, popularity/dissemination/visibility, feedback likelihood, etc?
To possibly provoke some comments, here are a few intuitions of mine. Please contradict and challenge (or confirm) based on your experiences, or your intuitions:
- Blogs are easily accessible and can be viewed/read comfortable, but they tend to have a restriced set of authors. Can anyone imagine applying for authorship rights to a blog administration in order to just pose one question or to advertise one conference?
- The same holds for wiki sites.
- Social networks like academia.eduhttp://academia.edu/, itergateway groups etc. depend on people to focus on one such network which might not be their favorite one, so a too large portion of interested persons is kept out.
- Bulletin Boards are a mess.
- Twitter messages are too short.
- Mailing lists are not subscribed to because they look old-fashioned. Being somewhat nerdy myself, they are my personal favorites, however.
On the other hand, when I have asked that same question on my facebook profile, the only response I did get was a suggestion to go for a blog. In other social networks or fora (academia.eduhttp://academia.edu/, community.itergateway.orghttp://community.itergateway.org/, researchgate.nethttp://researchgate.net/ etc.) I did not get any reply at all (although some are watching/following the question).
I would be very grateful for any insights shared...
Best regards,
Andreas
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