Dear list, I'm pleased to announce that Castellanie.net, a website publishing images and soon transcriptions of the XIIIth century account rolls of the House of Savoy, now proposes self-corrective online paleography exercices to help students and beginners to learn how to read those accounts. Four exercices are available now, with more to come. They can be accessed from the main website (www.castellanie.net) or directly at this URL: http://paleographie.castellanie.net
What may also be of interest to some of you is that those exercices are generated directly from Image Markup Tool, thanks to a customized XSL, CSS and Javascript, making it very easy to create new exercices, including for scholars with zero web design skills. I plan to make the XSL / CSS / Javascript available online very soon, after just a little bit of polishing. Besides, as we plan to extend the collection of exercices, any feedback about the interface, functionalities, etc. will be most welcome :)
Best regards, an Happy New Year! Marjorie
Very interesting - I am used to reading English manuscripts from exactly the same period and the style is quite different, though not unreadable.
However the software did not work at all on my browser. The image on the top left matches the transcription, but the square on the main image do not match. I've had this problem on stuff I have done, it is something to do with the metric assumed for the image I think. Until the image itself is separable into segments, this will always be a problem.
Edward Buckner
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie Burghart" marjorie.burghart@ehess.fr To: dm-l@uleth.ca Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 8:50 PM Subject: [dm-l] Online paleography exercises created with Image Markup Tool
Dear list, I'm pleased to announce that Castellanie.net, a website publishing images and soon transcriptions of the XIIIth century account rolls of the House of Savoy, now proposes self-corrective online paleography exercices to help students and beginners to learn how to read those accounts. Four exercices are available now, with more to come. They can be accessed from the main website (www.castellanie.net) or directly at this URL: http://paleographie.castellanie.net
What may also be of interest to some of you is that those exercices are generated directly from Image Markup Tool, thanks to a customized XSL, CSS and Javascript, making it very easy to create new exercices, including for scholars with zero web design skills. I plan to make the XSL / CSS / Javascript available online very soon, after just a little bit of polishing. Besides, as we plan to extend the collection of exercices, any feedback about the interface, functionalities, etc. will be most welcome :)
Best regards, an Happy New Year! Marjorie
Thanks a lot Edward for the feedback! It would be really useful to me if you could tell me what are your system and browser version? For the record, I've tested the interface on Firefox 3 (Win & Mac) and IE 8 - but that's the issue with javascript and browser compatibility :S
Buckner a écrit :
Very interesting - I am used to reading English manuscripts from exactly the same period and the style is quite different, though not unreadable.
However the software did not work at all on my browser. The image on the top left matches the transcription, but the square on the main image do not match. I've had this problem on stuff I have done, it is something to do with the metric assumed for the image I think. Until the image itself is separable into segments, this will always be a problem.
Edward Buckner
Hi,
Windows Explorer 7, version 7.0.6000.16945
Best,
Edward
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie Burghart" marjorie.burghart@ehess.fr
Thanks a lot Edward for the feedback! It would be really useful to me if you could tell me what are your system and browser version? For the record, I've tested the interface on Firefox 3 (Win & Mac) and IE 8 - but that's the issue with javascript and browser compatibility :S
Marjorie,
this is great! I can report that everything --- except my XIIIth c. paleography knowledge --- works with Opera 9.64 on Linux (Ubuntu Hardy), with midori 0.0.17, and Galeon 2.0.4 on the same system.
This kind of exercises could be used even for learning to read old printed books. Do you plan to make the sources for XSL, CSS and Java publicly available somewhere?
Yours,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Hrvatska / Croatia
This is most impressive! It works fine on Firefox 3.5.6 (MacOs X 10.6). In "1345 : prologue d'un compte" scrolling back and forth from the image to the transcription box is a little bit difficult but that's no big deal.
Best wishes Notis
2010/1/3 Marjorie Burghart marjorie.burghart@ehess.fr
Dear list, I'm pleased to announce that Castellanie.net, a website publishing images and soon transcriptions of the XIIIth century account rolls of the House of Savoy, now proposes self-corrective online paleography exercices to help students and beginners to learn how to read those accounts. Four exercices are available now, with more to come. They can be accessed from the main website (www.castellanie.net) or directly at this URL: http://paleographie.castellanie.net
What may also be of interest to some of you is that those exercices are generated directly from Image Markup Tool, thanks to a customized XSL, CSS and Javascript, making it very easy to create new exercices, including for scholars with zero web design skills. I plan to make the XSL / CSS / Javascript available online very soon, after just a little bit of polishing. Besides, as we plan to extend the collection of exercices, any feedback about the interface, functionalities, etc. will be most welcome :)
Best regards, an Happy New Year! Marjorie
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Thanks to all for your feedback about the systems / browsers working fine with the program :)
Neven Jovanović a écrit :
This kind of exercises could be used even for learning to read old printed books. Do you plan to make the sources for XSL, CSS and Java publicly available somewhere?
Yes, Neven, I do: the sources will be available in a few days, just the time for me to fix some minor details :) I'll keep the list posted as soon as they are available.
Dr Notis Toufexis a écrit :
In "1345 : prologue d'un compte" scrolling back and forth from the image to the transcription box is a little bit difficult but that's no big deal.
Yes indeed, the span of image was probably a bit too large for comfort on smaller screens in this exercise. On the other hand, the "zoom" of the current zone is always visible (but I agree it's useful to have the "big picture" to decipher a word) ; another trick might be to hide the lines of the transcription box when one has finished to transcribe them (not only the full zones can be hidden, but within the zones each line can also be hidden by clicking on its label).
Best, Marjorie
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Neven Jovanović