Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I tend to use wikis a lot now for personal notekeeping and the like, and I very much like the way they work: very easy to enter new material and edit old material, for example. But, apart from the fact that they can be edited easily, Wikis are obviously more like a card catalogue than a structured site. You can give them structure with categories, but it isn't natural to them.
What I'd love to find is some kind of similar system for more structured sets of pages: something where I could easily edit, say, the index page by simply calling it up, and where I could get an over view of the relationships of all the other pages (In general, I try to keep pages where they are so that I can find them again when students need to know what was taught in 1999; that can make things unwieldy): copy previous syllabi and edit the new representations, etc., preferably WYSIWIG or with minimal tagging.
Anybody have any suggestions? I don't mind experimenting with server-based software (I set up and break down the wikis all the time, after all), though an export/publish function might be required in the end, as my university space is pretty much for storage I believe rather than running software from.
Linux-based solutions are better: I think our university server is Redhat.
Thanks in advance,
-dan
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I stumbled across this a few days ago while googling for cms systems that can work with my local mediawiki installation:
I haven't used it, but it may be worth investigating. I'd never heard of the strangely-named tools they're using - moodle, elgg, drupal.
Cheers -
bw
On 10/20/06, Bill White minutiae@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I stumbled across this a few days ago while googling for cms systems that can work with my local mediawiki installation:
I haven't used it, but it may be worth investigating. I'd never heard of the strangely-named tools they're using - moodle, elgg, drupal.
Whoops - I think that website may be offering/selling services. At any rate, the links they provide to moodle et al. may be useful.
Cheers -
bw
You're right the component parts look very interesting.
-dan
On Fri, 2006-20-10 at 09:20 -0500, Bill White wrote:
On 10/20/06, Bill White minutiae@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I stumbled across this a few days ago while googling for cms systems that can work with my local mediawiki installation:
I haven't used it, but it may be worth investigating. I'd never heard of the strangely-named tools they're using - moodle, elgg, drupal.
Whoops - I think that website may be offering/selling services. At any rate, the links they provide to moodle et al. may be useful.
Cheers -
bw
Bill White wrote:
I haven't used it, but it may be worth investigating. I'd never heard of the strangely-named tools they're using - moodle, elgg, drupal.
I know a number of people who use moodle and like it. It is an online courseware CMS so has features for the overall design of sites, enrolment of students, etc. but also course-level modules for: assignments, chatting, voting, forums, glossaries, lessons, quizzes, resource delivery, surveys, wikis, workshops, etc. etc.
See http://docs.moodle.org/en/Features.
Moreover, those of you using ubuntu or debian linux who have TEI package repository in your sources list (see http://tei.oucs.ox.ac.uk/teideb/ ) can just 'sudo apt-get install moodle' to get it installed and set up.
Best, -James
Drupal is a very well-thought-of open-source portal management application, with a big user base contributing lots of plug-ins. Mark Jordan at SFU is experimenting with it as a platform for a digital collection: http://dlcms.interoperating.info/ (see the "About" section for details). Definitely worth a look.
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca [mailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:14 AM To: daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca; Digital Medievalist Community mailing list Subject: Re: [dm-l] Personal Web site maintenance
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I stumbled across this a few days ago while googling for cms systems that can work with my local mediawiki installation:
I haven't used it, but it may be worth investigating. I'd never heard of the strangely-named tools they're using - moodle, elgg, drupal.
Cheers -
bw -- Bill White . minutiae@gmail.com . http://minutiae.stblogs.org
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Not so much for editing personal websites, but a useful tool for (collaboratively) editing teaching materials which could then be ported to a website or printed as a complete book, etc.:
http:/www.courseforge.com
(Thought this might answer a question kind of orthoganal to Dan's original request.)
Cheers,
G
So far, textpattern looks like the closest to what I've wanted, though indeed drupal looks more developed and better supported. Textpattern uses textile, a wiki-style editor, that allows you to flip back and forth between wiki-style markup, xhtml, and a preview. It also is a complete content management system, though it is still fairly focussed on blogging rather than the relatively static pages I would be using it to replace.
If only it was a mediawiki-based editor: I know the wikipedia's markup quite well; textile's is another dialect.
In my case very easy onscreen editing is what I need more than anything with some CMS features--i.e. finding pages. I was finding it murder making small changes in things like syllabi: a table in code is a mess, and using a wordprocessor messes up one's hopefully clean html. The wiki-based editor seems to get around that. Tables and lists are very easy to over see and edit, and the translation back into html is very clean.
I hope to have something up in the next week or two to show.
On Mon, 2006-23-10 at 16:38 +0100, Gabriel BODARD wrote:
Not so much for editing personal websites, but a useful tool for (collaboratively) editing teaching materials which could then be ported to a website or printed as a complete book, etc.:
http:/www.courseforge.com
(Thought this might answer a question kind of orthoganal to Dan's original request.)
Cheers,
G
Maybe Textpattern is woth a look:
Cheers, Notis
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc.
I tend to use wikis a lot now for personal notekeeping and the like, and I very much like the way they work: very easy to enter new material and edit old material, for example. But, apart from the fact that they can be edited easily, Wikis are obviously more like a card catalogue than a structured site. You can give them structure with categories, but it isn't natural to them.
What I'd love to find is some kind of similar system for more structured sets of pages: something where I could easily edit, say, the index page by simply calling it up, and where I could get an over view of the relationships of all the other pages (In general, I try to keep pages where they are so that I can find them again when students need to know what was taught in 1999; that can make things unwieldy): copy previous syllabi and edit the new representations, etc., preferably WYSIWIG or with minimal tagging.
Anybody have any suggestions? I don't mind experimenting with server-based software (I set up and break down the wikis all the time, after all), though an export/publish function might be required in the end, as my university space is pretty much for storage I believe rather than running software from.
Linux-based solutions are better: I think our university server is Redhat.
Thanks in advance,
-dan
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This looks very much like it might be what I want. Certainly the Textile part is--a wiki-style editor that speeds up coding by using short hand and then php to convert it.
The other things also look very good, though they are more than I need, I think, for what I want.
On Fri, 2006-20-10 at 16:59 +0100, Notis Toufexis wrote:
Maybe Textpattern is woth a look:
Cheers, Notis
On 10/20/06, Daniel O'Donnell caedmon@uleth.ca wrote: Hi,
Does anybody have advice on how to maintain a professional academic homepage--I mean the page one uses for class material, information on research, etc. I tend to use wikis a lot now for personal notekeeping and the like, and I very much like the way they work: very easy to enter new material and edit old material, for example. But, apart from the fact that they can be edited easily, Wikis are obviously more like a card catalogue than a structured site. You can give them structure with categories, but it isn't natural to them. What I'd love to find is some kind of similar system for more structured sets of pages: something where I could easily edit, say, the index page by simply calling it up, and where I could get an over view of the relationships of all the other pages (In general, I try to keep pages where they are so that I can find them again when students need to know what was taught in 1999; that can make things unwieldy): copy previous syllabi and edit the new representations, etc., preferably WYSIWIG or with minimal tagging. Anybody have any suggestions? I don't mind experimenting with server-based software (I set up and break down the wikis all the time, after all), though an export/publish function might be required in the end, as my university space is pretty much for storage I believe rather than running software from. Linux-based solutions are better: I think our university server is Redhat. Thanks in advance, -dan _______________________________________________ Digital Medievalist Project Homepage: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org Journal (Spring 2005-): http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal.cfm RSS (announcements) server: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/rss/rss2.cfm Wiki: http://sql.uleth.ca/dmorgwiki/index.php Change membership options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Submit RSS announcement: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/newitem.cfm Contact editorial Board: digitalmedievalist@uleth.ca dm-l mailing list dm-l@uleth.ca http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l-- http://www.early-modern-greek.org http://www.mml.cam.ac.uk/greek/grammarofmedievalgreek/
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