Hi all,
I have a new research assistant who is going to be helping us at the DM journal. She's a Mac user, and to get her set up, I'd appreciate any advice this list has for software for the following:
1) SVN client (we use subversion for our journal back end and she'll need access; I'm assuming the Mac Version of Oxygen comes with the same SVN client the other versions do, but it might be nice to have a separate svn client as well--something like turtleSVN for Windows.
2) Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for Mac? Almost right away we're going to have her putting in some greek and mathematical symbols in an article: is there a utility for browsing and search code points?
-dan
Hi, Dan,
There are a handful of visual SVN clients for Mac OS, some of which do integrate with the finder. Personally, I use the command line svn utility. As far as navigating Unicode, there is the built-in Character Viewer, which serves me well.
Best, Grant
On 2/6/11 3:02 PM, "O'Donnell, Dan" daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:
Hi all,
I have a new research assistant who is going to be helping us at the DM journal. She's a Mac user, and to get her set up, I'd appreciate any advice this list has for software for the following:
- SVN client (we use subversion for our journal back end and she'll
need access; I'm assuming the Mac Version of Oxygen comes with the same SVN client the other versions do, but it might be nice to have a separate svn client as well--something like turtleSVN for Windows.
- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for Mac?
Almost right away we're going to have her putting in some greek and mathematical symbols in an article: is there a utility for browsing and search code points?
-dan
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On (1), I use command-line SVN so I have no advice on that (though AFAIR there's nothing Tortoise-like for OS X). The things I found with a Google search are the same things you will have found and I have no experience with them.
But on (2), the happy news is that this Unicode navigator is built into the OS and is one of my favorite ways to browse Unicode. In System Preferences->Language & Text->Input Sources, simply check two boxes: "Keyboard & Character Viewer" at the top of the input method list on the left, and "Show Input menu in menu bar" at the bottom right. Then whenever you need a Unicode character, select "Show Character Viewer" from the input menubar. By default it browses by human-readable script/glyph categories that do not exactly correspond to the Unicode code tables, but changing the "View:" mode to "Code Tables" you can see the familiar ranges like "20D0 Combining Mark for Symbols; 2100 Letterlike Symbols" etc. You can also search by a string match against the long Unicode name, or by similar shapes.
O.
On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:02 PM, O'Donnell, Dan wrote:
- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for Mac? Almost right away we're going to have her putting in some greek and mathematical symbols in an article: is there a utility for browsing and search code points?
Although it's certainly correct that the Character Palette built into Mac OS X is excellent (and I wish there were a Linux application that would tell me which fonts include a given character as easily as it does), a couple of similar free applications may also prove useful:
http://earthlingsoft.net/UnicodeChecker/ http://pixel.recoil.org/code/unicodefontinfo/index.html
John
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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote in part:
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- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for Mac?...
Thanks for those references, John. I will have to check them out. As far as determining which font contains which characters, I feel your pain. I tend to install Junicode and trust that it has the characters I need. (Bless you, Peter Baker!)
On 2/6/11 3:22 PM, "John McChesney-Young" jmccyoung@gmail.com wrote:
Although it's certainly correct that the Character Palette built into Mac OS X is excellent (and I wish there were a Linux application that would tell me which fonts include a given character as easily as it does), a couple of similar free applications may also prove useful:
http://earthlingsoft.net/UnicodeChecker/ http://pixel.recoil.org/code/unicodefontinfo/index.html
John
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote in part:
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- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for
Mac?...
-- John McChesney-Young ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. JMcCYoung~at~gmail.com ** http://twitter.com/jmccyoung ** http://jmccyoung.blogspot.com/
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Conal Tuohy built a little checker for Windows many years ago. And you can use any of the modern browsers to see if the character is on your system at all. I wonder could you use rich pasting into a word-processor or similar to discover the font name?
E.g. create a page with the point, load it up in Firefox, if a character appears, copy and paste it into a wordprocessor and hope that font information has been preserved?
I appreciate all the advice on utilities for SVN and the like: I don't have a Mac and have never really used one, so I'm happy to have names I can throw around. I find that the command line can be scary to people, so when I'm introducing lots of new concepts and techniques, I'm always happy if there is GUI-based software available at least initially!
-dan
On 11-02-06 01:29 PM, Simpson, Grant Leyton wrote:
Thanks for those references, John. I will have to check them out. As far as determining which font contains which characters, I feel your pain. I tend to install Junicode and trust that it has the characters I need. (Bless you, Peter Baker!)
On 2/6/11 3:22 PM, "John McChesney-Young"jmccyoung@gmail.com wrote:
Although it's certainly correct that the Character Palette built into Mac OS X is excellent (and I wish there were a Linux application that would tell me which fonts include a given character as easily as it does), a couple of similar free applications may also prove useful:
http://earthlingsoft.net/UnicodeChecker/ http://pixel.recoil.org/code/unicodefontinfo/index.html
John
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote in part:
...
- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for
Mac?...
-- John McChesney-Young ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. JMcCYoung~at~gmail.com ** http://twitter.com/jmccyoung ** http://jmccyoung.blogspot.com/
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Sure, that would tell you if a font had a glyph at that code point, but what Character Viewer does is tell you, for a given code point, which fonts have that glyph.
On 2/6/11 4:09 PM, "O'Donnell, Dan" daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:
Conal Tuohy built a little checker for Windows many years ago. And you can use any of the modern browsers to see if the character is on your system at all. I wonder could you use rich pasting into a word-processor or similar to discover the font name?
E.g. create a page with the point, load it up in Firefox, if a character appears, copy and paste it into a wordprocessor and hope that font information has been preserved?
I appreciate all the advice on utilities for SVN and the like: I don't have a Mac and have never really used one, so I'm happy to have names I can throw around. I find that the command line can be scary to people, so when I'm introducing lots of new concepts and techniques, I'm always happy if there is GUI-based software available at least initially!
-dan
On 11-02-06 01:29 PM, Simpson, Grant Leyton wrote:
Thanks for those references, John. I will have to check them out. As far as determining which font contains which characters, I feel your pain. I tend to install Junicode and trust that it has the characters I need. (Bless you, Peter Baker!)
On 2/6/11 3:22 PM, "John McChesney-Young"jmccyoung@gmail.com wrote:
Although it's certainly correct that the Character Palette built into Mac OS X is excellent (and I wish there were a Linux application that would tell me which fonts include a given character as easily as it does), a couple of similar free applications may also prove useful:
http://earthlingsoft.net/UnicodeChecker/ http://pixel.recoil.org/code/unicodefontinfo/index.html
John
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote in part:
...
- Unicode navigator--is there a standard code point navigator for
Mac?...
-- John McChesney-Young ** Berkeley, California, U.S.A. JMcCYoung~at~gmail.com ** http://twitter.com/jmccyoung ** http://jmccyoung.blogspot.com/
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Mac users don't need this, but about a year ago I made a little command-line utility called "fontswith," which searches the fonts on a system for one or more glyphs and reports which ones the system has, e.g.
me> fontswith Amacron me> fontswith U+FB01 eacute
A search can take a minute or so, but fontswith can also build an index so that searches can usually be done in about a second. You need Python 2.3 or higher and a reasonably recent build of FontForge (with its Python extensions). It's here:
http://faculty.virginia.edu/OldEnglish/fontswith/
A reasonably decent little utility for Linux.
Peter
On 2/6/11 4:18 PM, Simpson, Grant Leyton wrote:
Sure, that would tell you if a font had a glyph at that code point, but what Character Viewer does is tell you, for a given code point, which fonts have that glyph.
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