Dear Ernesto,The genealogy you ask for is more subjective than empirical, so here is one version from me.This began with the question of whether GO::DH could or should become a constituent organization of ADHO. At DH2016 in Poland (August 2016), Dan had expressed that there was interest from ADHO. With the various governance changes at ADHO, it seemed like there would be flexibility on things like member fees, particularly since GO::DH is a special case (not being geographical or linguistic or centernet). To editorialize, I was initially both interested in and in favor of this idea and volunteered to work with Dan to explore this option with ADHO. It was clear to me that SIG status gave us nothing so the CO alternative seemed appealing initially. Because ADHO was in the middle of the governance revisions, this conversation wasn't in a position to move forward until late July/early August 2017.Here's the even more subjective part: my first set of real doubts on the CO idea arose during an executive meeting in late 2016 or early 2017 in which the question was raised about whether GO::DH could essentially "organize" the rest of the world, be a point of entry to ADHO, and provide guidance to ADHO about whether geographical, linguistic, regional, etc. organization was most appropriate for Africa, for example. (I imagine this had something to do with Humanistica gaining CO status and it's linguistic, rather than geographical, orientation.) That question being put to GO::DH made me reconsider the labor ADHO has received from some of us who have been more active and, more importantly, the politics of GO::DH being a CO - as a default/catchall other and as a gateway (drug) to ADHO. Having GO::DH being the "other" CO or the native informant CO struck me as being a deterrent to the development and admission of more COs from around the world. In addition to the politics, this is also a result of where GO::DH labor has been directed: away from projects like AroundDH or our other early projects and towards ADHO diversity initiatives, to the point that I have heard ADHO leaders say of linguistic and diversity issues, "GO::DH can take care of that." There's more I could say about some of the racialized and gendered dynamics of that labor and its uneven payoffs as well.Alex and I talked about all of this at length in spring of 2017, particularly because I asked him to run for exec again because GO::DH wasn't really doing anything anymore and with only 2-3 people willing to do work, we were dead on arrival. The question for us was how to (and, indeed, whether it's possible to) recapture the vibrant work and community that GO::DH had four years ago. A possible solution presented itself: don't be a CO, be independent from ADHO while maintaining a positive connection as an affiliate. We could go back to our origins and wouldn't be trading in our ability to be a flexible, unique, responsive, and nimble community in exchange for a few thousand dollars from ADHO, subsidized by those of us who can afford membership fees. After all, everything good as GO::DH was spearheaded by junior folks of color who were learning how to do high-impact work with no money at the beginning of our careers. In May we sat down and sketched out a proposal for change to GO::DH (presented here as the independence model). Alex shared this idea at a meeting in Montreal. After that meeting, Alex proposed that those favoring particular positions on the future of GO::DH write up those positions for further consideration. This independence model is the first of those that had been written, to my knowledge.Roopika--Roopika Risam, PhDAssistant Professor of EnglishChair, Program Area for Content EducationSalem State UniversitySent from my iPhoneHi all,I have read the contributions with interest. I have to confess I am a bit confused; maybe I'm not the only one?It is apparent that members of the Executive know more about the genealogy of the 'independent' proposal and the ADHO changes and potential change to CO than other members of this list. Or maybe just me.(Questions about this at the end of my message; a personal note before that).Personally I like the 'independent' proposal, as a document, because it seeks to address the pitfalls we faced in the group creatively and in a way which is fit for purpose.As I have expressed in the past a more formal arrangement tends to exclude many of us for different reasons. When I attempted being active in ADHO ad hoc committees, lack of funding, travel times, time zone differences and technological challenges put me at a disadvantage. Not all of us can take more than a week off in one go to attend pre-comference meetings and conference events abroad (often in places as expensive as Lausanne).I have found myself mostly isolated in my criticism of the ADHO's deal with OUP for a paywalled journal that we through our universities have to then pay doubly -or is it triply?- so that we, our colleagues and students can access the work we produce. I would find it terribly depressing (if not antithetical) if GO::DH became a traditional 'CO' where only those with more relatively privileged conditions can have influence, and where members' fees would contribute to the ongoing paywalling and monopolisation of academic knowledge. This is why a 'minimal effort; big impact' would suit us better, in my opinion.Now, re what I still find unclear...Would it be possible for Alex and Roopika, and Harold and Dan, to share with the rest of us this 'geneaology'? What I find missing in the 'independent' proposal is the background, the explicit _why_ of the proposed change.What I find missing or unclear in Harold's and Dan's is what the practical and financial implications would be, _who_ would receive money and how much and what for, and if GO::DH members would have to pay ADHO fees _and_ GO::DH fees.Answers to these questions might help the rest of us understand the background as well as the potential future consequences. For example, if there is no consensus, who gets to _be_ GO::DH?[Excuse typos and relative brevity. Touchtyped from my phone on my way to work]All the best,ErnestoOn 17 Oct 2017 03:08, "Alex Gil" <colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote:Thank you, Barbara. I wish nothing more than that.In the spirit of democracy, I ask all current executive members to say they agree for this vote to take place on the membership. A simple majority is all we need. We do not need for the vote to take place in secret—nothing on the bylaws about that. The bylaws, on the other hand do encourage important issues to be polled by members:"Individual members in good standing have the right to vote in GO::DH elections and such issues as the Executive shall decide to poll the membership on."Just say aye if you agree.If the executive approves the passing of the poll, we will stick to our schedule, and vote on December 15. This gives us time to deliberate and secure a proper referendum, with an electoral officer assuring the standards of the proceedings.a.On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:02 PM, B. Bordalejo <barbara.bordalejo@arts.kuleuven.be > wrote:Dear Alex,
Thank you for putting my name forward. Of course, as always, I am willing to work with Dan and others in making this case. However, I would like to be assured that that the decision will not be only in the hands of the executive, but the whole of the GO::DH membership. After all, this is precisely what you have been proposing, right?
Best,
BB
On 16/10/2017 17:48, Alex Gil wrote:
Thank you all,
Real quick, so I don't interrupt your conversation too much. Dan, would you be amenable to making your argument into a Google Doc? Perhaps Glen and Barbara would like to add. Just so that we can keep organized.
That's all,Please continue. This will be enormously helpful for the executive committee when it comes time to make a decision. As always feel free to write in the language you are comfortable in. We will figure it out.
a.
On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Amy Earhart <aearhart@tamu.edu> wrote:
Hello all,
It seems a large part of this discussion is not about ADHO, but rather about if we think our goals are best accomplished in an organizational structure. In some ways putting GO::DH into a large organization like ADHO is a poor fit. GO::DH started as a very grass roots organization that resisted hierarchies, committees, officers, etc. and rather used social media and loose collaborations to create some sort of a movement or to create small projects. To me we are much more like a social movement, a political movement, than we are a typical academic organization. I think we are at a moment where we need to figure out if such a beginning should be contained within an organization for positive benefits, reject such organizational structures as antithetical to our goals or to come up with some sort of a hybrid model. Thinking about the issue as less about ADHO and more in this structural way has helped me to consider what might be at stake and where we might go.
Best,
Amy
Amy E. EarhartAssociate Professor of EnglishTexas A&M University
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Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] Why we should leave ADHO, go minimal and return to the planet.Ernesto,
I know I'm not Alex but the list belongs to the members, so I would argue that the conversation should happen however the members will it.
Roopika
--Roopika Risam, PhDAssistant Professor of EnglishChair, Program Area for Content EducationSalem State UniversityErnestoThank you for this, Alex.Thank you!
We should have a collective deadline of December 1 for deliberations. In that time, we encourage general and executive members to debate on the list what you would like to see GO::DH become. All of your discussion, comments, will be taken into consideration as the executive votes on a final decision by December 15.Should we have that conversation on this thread (i.e. in reply to your message as I am doing now) or would you prefer to have a different thread or even different threads?
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On 15 October 2017 at 20:50, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,
As promised, here is the document with the argument for why we should leave ADHO. The first round was written by Dr. Roopika Risam and me, but those in support can add their own rationales and arguments, or comment on ours. Instructions are in the Google Doc.
A second argument will be prepared by those who support the idea of becoming a Constituent Organization of ADHO. I think Dan O'Donnell (Canada), Barbara Bordalejo (Argentina) and Glen Worthey (USA) have signaled they would be interested in drafting such a document. Hopefully sooner, rather than later, so we can proceed with deliberations.
After the second argument is made, a third argument is possible if enough members feel there should be a middle path, or a "third way."
We should have a collective deadline of December 1 for deliberations. In that time, we encourage general and executive members to debate on the list what you would like to see GO::DH become. All of your discussion, comments, will be taken into consideration as the executive votes on a final decision by December 15.
We will announce the results of the process before the year ends, and hopefully move forward with renewed energy into the next stage of GO::DH. Next year, I will pass on the baton to a new chair who will carry out our collective will, but will help in the transition, whatever that is, as long as I'm chair.
All best,Alex.
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