Hi all,


This is an interesting discussion.


It's going to be hard to build a case for joining ADHO as a Constituent Organisation (CO) in abstract (i.e. without a specific proposal on the table) because the abstract reasons for doing it depend a lot on the details of the proposal. This is (and was) true of any potential CO. So, for example, the Canadian Society joined because it seemed like a good idea, after people had worked out what would be involved in joining.


There are very few abstract reasons for joining a group that would withstand a bad proposal.


You can make an abstract case against joining an organisation--or rather a positive case for maintaining independence or avoiding surrendering it--because that might well touch on some core values. I.e. you might think that a society or group is simply better doing things on its own.


So rather than say why I think we should join ADHO as a CO--something I don't actually think, since I don't know what the conditions would be--I'll work instead on coming up with some suggestions for why it is, in my opinion, worth exploring.


Finally, there is in all of these things an intangible aspect. I'm a Northern, Middle Aged, White, Male, and Tenured Full Professor who has been fortunate enough to be active in DH since its modern incarnation with the rise of the internet. So for me, organisations like ADHO don't really exist outside of "us": I've seen them arise and I'm relatively convinced that they are amenable to change. 


Unfortunately, that is also the definition of privilege. 


More anon.


-dan



U of Lethbridge Logo 


Daniel Paul O'Donnell

Professor of English and Associate Member of the University Library Academic Staff

Editor, Digital Studies/Le champ numérique

Vice President, Force 11

Department of English and University Library

University of Lethbridge

4401 University Drive West

Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4

Canada

Tel. +1 (403) 329-2377


http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell

@danielPaulOD




From: globaloutlookdh-l <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca> on behalf of Øyvind Eide <lister@oeide.no>
Sent: October 16, 2017 12:57
To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList
Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] Post on Global DH
 
One sees failure, one sees attempts with limited resources. Whatever view we have I hope none of us will leave it to ADHO to build communities. I hope all individuals and all the organisations we form, some inside ADHO and some outside, will continue taking part in that.

Maybe we should try less hard to give more room for new voices? Or maybe we should indeed try harder?

I am not sure but what I do know is this: I do not have any problem with Global South people talking to each other and I am happy such dialogues are not starting now, but have gone on for a long time. 

Giitu,

Øyvind

Am 16.10.2017 um 20:39 schrieb Domenico Fiormonte <domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com>:

Dear Northern friend,

I love your sense of humour. But the truth beyond jokes is that ADHO seemed to have failed to build an equal, diverse and inclusive Digital Humanities community.

Try harder!

:-)


Il 16 Ott 2017 20:14, "Øyvind Eide" <lister@oeide.no> ha scritto:
Hi Domenico,


> Am 14.10.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Domenico Fiormonte <domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com>:
> What really drives nuts the Global North is when Global South people start to dialogue to each other ;-)

You think it is so easy to drive us nuts?

Try harder!

;-)

Øyvind


_______________________________________________
globaloutlookdh-l mailing list
globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca
http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l

You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted.

If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours.
_______________________________________________
globaloutlookdh-l mailing list
globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca
http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l

You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted.

If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours.