I agree with Dan here. No one can truly represent communities of the magnitude we're discussing here without dealing in stereotypes. I would strongly urge us not to do such things. That doesn't leave us without recourse, though. Here are some thoughts:

a) Mutually agreed upon terms of engagement for international collaboration. These are not lessons about each other, just the good old finding of common ground.
b) Encouraging well-travelled, multi-lingual, cosmopolitan members to play diplomatic and translating roles.
c) Listening to folks who do collaborative, deep research with academic communities outside their home base. This is not to be conflated with the antrhopological study of cultures, although there may be overlap.
d) Building friendships with folks who live far away from you. My favorite :)

All of that to say, that if we provide the right structures, the right environment for collaboration, *experience* will fill in the gaps to help us avoid making the type of faux-pas you outline.


On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Vika Zafrin <vzafrin@bu.edu> wrote:
Yeah, that's a real problem, and I'm pretty poorly equipped to deal with it. One problem with stereotypes is that they sometimes point to trends, and some of those trends are harmful, and some of the harmful ones bring us (ADHO) to our current state. So I can't dismiss stereotypes as a thing we can never use to a good end.

Maybe an effort to help folks understand cultural academic differences doesn't have to be prescriptive. Not "try doing X to counteract trend Y," but "we've noticed these trends. Awareness of them might help us all move forward." This would have a greater chance of avoiding victim blaming.

-Vika

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O'Donnell, Dan wrote:

I really think this would be a great idea, though the basic problem is that it deals in stereotypes. We also need to watch out that it doesn't become victim blaming--for example in the way that the endless articles advising women to speak and behave differently in order to succeed do.


But we all have a sense that some disciplines, academic cultures, and languages, stereotypically at least value different things: when I was TEI chair, I was well aware of the different academic culture between the U.S. and the U.K., for example (I used to joke that I was made TEI chair because I could tell when the Americans were angry and the English weren't). But I don't know how you could report that without trading in stereotypes.



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From: globaloutlookdh-l <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca> on behalf of Vika Zafrin <vzafrin@bu.edu>
Sent: December 2, 2015 10:44
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Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to ADHO Change in Chair and Call for Recommendations on inter-cultural communication
 
Alex Gil wrote:
To Vika's question, can you clarify a bit more, Vika, what you mean?
I'm not sure about the full extent of what I mean. But somewhere upthread someone mentioned aggressive vs supportive manners of engaging with a presenter, a cultural difference of which I've had a dim idea, but which I didn't consciously hold to be something that would—unspoken—exclude people from participating in an international discussion. It would be difficult to create a sensitive yet effective resource documenting some cross-cultural translation, but it may be worth the effort.

I'm thinking of something like:

- If you're from X, scholars from outside your culture may seem meek and ineffectual to you. If that's true for you, consider consciously making space for them in conversation.
- If you're from Y, engaging with scholars from outside your culture may feel like a constant personal attack. If that's a pattern that's true for you, it may not be conscious; you might try to de-personalize it, or consider bringing it up to allies as an issue.

Or, further de-personalized: we've noticed some patterns, and we're compiling them here because we think awareness of them would be useful to moving the DH community toward true globalization. Scholarly cultures in X region seem considerably more aggressive in debate than they do in Y region. Etc.

-Vika



On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

Not that I'm aware of.


On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, 08:06 Vika Zafrin <vzafrin@bu.edu> wrote:
Dear Isabel and all,

The latest few emails in this thread, and the deeply thought out response document for Karina and the SC, have led me to wonder whether it would be possible to compile a document explaining to scholars the differences in academic language among different communities, whether separated by language, nationality, world region, or other factors. I don't feel qualified to lead such an effort, though would certainly try to contribute to it. But it seems like maybe an appropriate project for GO::DH?

Please forgive me if someone has already written about this. I've tried to keep up with the list, but have not been entirely successful, especially of late.


-Vika

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igalina wrote:

Dear Sara and All,

I think Sara's comment about reviewers is both a practical issue but also a fundamental reflection of how deep or superficial the consequences of our initiatives are. Indeed, although CfP in many different languages looks and sounds good, and is most definitely a step forward, with no reviewers the step is tiny indeed.  I also think that some of the discussions regarding 'who is entitled to be a reviewer' reflect more deep rooted prejudices - ie. for example, to be a reviewer in English there are one set of requirements and a proposal to be a reviewer in other languages had different requirements, not only language ones but some that seemed to be related to the 'quality' and 'knowledge' of the reviewer.

I would like to add to this discussion the issue of the publications that ADHO sponsors. I think that some discussions that are being had, again related to language and quality of research, should not be among a few, but rather open to a more public debate. What do we expect from our publications as ADHO members? As non-Anglo members (or English as a second language members), how do the different ADHO journals respond to our needs? Although some (not all) are in theory multi-lingual, do they *really* have the infrastructure to respond to multi-lingual needs? And if they don't, how can we help to make this a real possiblity?

Best,

Isabel


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Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, 
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM)
@igalina


De: globaloutlookdh-l <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca> en nombre de Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com>
Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 11:41 a. m.
Para: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to ADHO Change in Chair and Call for Recommendations on inter-cultural communication
 
Thank you, Sara, for this background. Things are in transition right now and the question of recruiting language reviewers hinges more at this moment on whether the structures will be there to receive them. I think GO::DH could, in theory, expand the reviewer pool by a substantial amount if we set our energies to it, but I think there are tacit reasons why that massive recruitment effort hasn't happened. I personally think we still have work to do on the ADHO side (and to a lesser degree our own CO's) before I, again personally, go out on a campaign to bring in friends and friends of friends into the fold. You shrewdly notice though that some of us with reservations will do that work for Montreal and Mexico, and just in time, we hope, as some or all of our recommendations get implemented.

cheers,
a.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Sara A. Schmidt <saschmidt8@gmail.com> wrote:
In response to Isabel's question "What role can having the DH conference in Mexico City have in 2018?" I feel compelled to note that I sincerely hope the Montreal and Mexico City conferences will lead to more French and Spanish speakers volunteering to review for the DH conference.

As some of you may know, I set up accounts for reviewers in conftool back in the fall of 2006 and worked with a few Program Committee Chairs to add more reviewers paying particular attention to increasing the numbers of those willing to read the languages listed in the DH2007 and DH2008 cfps and particular attention to increasing the numbers of reviewers with expertise in certain subject areas where there was a need for additional reviewers. I'm still rather amazed that ADHO would list Chinese and Japanese in a cfp when they only had one reviewer willing and able to read those languages circa fall 2006 and Arabic when they didn't have a single reviewer capable of reading Arabic. Okay, technically the cfp did state that authors were supposed to provide an English language translation of their abstracts, but as I would have anticipated not everyone noted that they were supposed to provide an English translation. Consequently the DH2007 PC Chair ended up needing to have some Russian abstracts translated by a member of the PC Committee because he not only didn't have enough reviewers capable of reading Russian circa fall 2006, he also didn't know which reviewers could read Russian.

While I did manage to increase the numbers of reviewers willing to read languages other than English and to add information regarding languages reviewers were willing to read into conftool abet in a less than ideal way, there was still a need for far more work to be done in my opinion. While I know ADHO has since moved to issuing open calls for reviewers, my witnessing one while still working on the database suggested to me that open calls work to increase the number of individuals in the same country as the PC Chair (since they are more likely to see and respond to the call as soon as it is sent out) and the number of North Americans (since there a number of North Americans who will tweet and retweet the calls for reviewers so they reach their North American colleagues).

My understanding is that there should be an open call for reviewers before the next conference. I would strongly encourage members of the GO:DH community to share that call with their colleagues especially those colleagues who would be willing to read abstracts in any languages other than English. Even if a particular language isn't listed in the cfp for DH2016, there is always a chance that someone might turn in an abstract dealing with texts in that particular language and in my opinion it would be very helpful for the PC Chair to have the opportunity to assign the abstract to at least one reviewer who can read that language. I also honestly believe that having a more linguistically and culturally diverse pool of reviewers is very beneficial for the conference.

I would also note that I know in the pre-DH2007 period there was a willingness to allow reviewers to volunteer to review abstracts in languages other than English without requiring them to review English language abstracts. I wish the powers that be were still allowing this as I feel it might be easier to increase the numbers of reviewers willing to read certain languages if one allowed them to choose to only read abstracts in their first language. There also was a willingness to let reviewers provide comments for authors in the language the abstract was submitted in as long as they also provided some feedback for the PC in English as well.

Sara Schmidt



On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:46 PM, igalina <igalina@unam.mx> wrote:
Dear All,
I would like to join in and celebrate the fact that you invited us all to contribute to the document. I am sorry that due to the short time span and personal workload I was unable to contribute to the document.

I think there is a general agreement that the AHDO structure is currently not flexible or inclusive enough and recent episodes are a reflection of this.  I am not quite sure though what I would like ADHO to look like and how it should function. At present there seems to be a division between a national/regional approach and a linguistic one (sometimes they are the same but not always).  As it stands currently the structure doesn't make much sense, and it doesn't seem very fair in terms of decision making. However, I think that the groups, in particular this one, are in place for us to have discussions about this.
The RedHD is not a CO or part of a CO.  Where do we fit in in all of this? What are the different options for participating? How do we relate not only to ADHO but to other DH associations both official and 'un-official' or emerging?  What role can having the DH conference in Mexico City have in 2018?
I think that one of the most important issues, regardless of how one becomes associated to ADHO, is how the agenda is decided and discussed. Association should not mean assimilation.
Sorry if my ideas are not very developed but I did want to write and say how important I think this discussion is.
Best,
Isabel

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Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas,
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De: globaloutlookdh-l <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca> en nombre de Øyvind Eide <lister@oeide.no>
Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de 2015 02:28 p. m.
Para: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to ADHO Change in Chair and     Call for Recommendations on inter-cultural communication

Dear Domenico,

Thank you for a clear and thorough reply. We may not agree on all aspects of history, nor on the details of the best (least bad) future organisation (should the power of Iceland be the same as the power of China? Maybe that is the least bad we can do), but I think we agree that ADHO must change into something easier to manage and more representative and inclusive. My take on this is to see what comes out of the current process for simplifying the structure of ADHO. If that indeed makes it better it gives us a starting point for further development and changes.

ADHO is a tool which is only meaningful as long as it makes sense to us, it should never become a goal in itself. For those working within the system that is always important to remember, it is so easy to make our tools our goals. For me ADHO still makes sense. We do good things with it and it is a place to meet.

I also believe that the free software concept of “gjørokrati” (do-ocracy in English?) is one aspect -- those who are willing to do work gets more influence. It has to be checked and limited by other bases for power, though.

Ha en fin kveld,

Øyvind

On 29. nov. 2015, at 20:51, Domenico Fiormonte wrote:

> Dear Øyvind and everyone,
>
> my observations referred initially to the quality and nature of the decision-making process that will lead ADHO to accept or not our suggestions. Then I extended my observations, in my usual polemic style, to ADHO political and institutional settings as a whole. I'm delighted to answer your question, but I would like to know if you think that spending hours on these proposals knowing that ADHO has no obligation to accept any of them is a part of a democratic exercise. Of course I believe it is better than nothing. But even octroyées constitutions were better than absolutism.
>
> What I would prefer for our community is not a mystery and you can find it in dozens of articles, blog posts, emails, etc. I made public in the last fifteen years. What I think we need is a federation of national associations.
> Isn't that simple? Not perfect, of course, but a step forward.
>
> I know that an elective political system is just one of the several features that defines and constitutes a democratic system. But what you call indirect democracy derives from the intrinsic limits of the ADHO initial project, i.e. to create an umbrella organization for what was already there -- at least in the visible horizon of a prevalently Anglophone community. I don't think that in those times it was a bad idea or that ADHO has done nothing so far to be more inclusive. However, that original bias remained. The structure was created to include existent associations (although recently the new Australasian  association joined ADHO reaffirming the Anglophone majority). Other national European associations, like the Italian AIUCD and the German DDH, joined ADHO through the EADH. The result is that both the presence and the influence of Italian and German communities are in principle diluted comparing to other national communities.
> And how about the French and Spanish associations? Do we think these two communities will accept, like the German and the Italian associations, to be represented in ADHO by the EADH? (Incidentally, the process that led at least one of these two associations to join EADH was far from transparent, as members were not publicly  consulted.)
>
> I'm aware of present ADHO's efforts to reflect in its committees a power balance not just  based on numbers, but that doesn't change the essence of the problem: inequality of representation. This inequality, unfortunately, it's a default condition of the present governance structure.
>
> As I said and wrote many times, it is not acceptable that if I represent a national group in Europe I could join ADHO only through  EADH, but if I am Mexican or Canadian I can join directly. It is like saying that if Turkey wants to join the EU has to join before Romania or Hungary. I'm aware that absurdities like these have historical reasons. But we are here to change and make our history, not to be subjects of it. So I'm really sorry for those friends and colleagues who spent a considerable amount of time, and in same cases most of their lifes, building and strengthening organizations like EADH, but in fact the same existence of such 'constituent organizations' makes today not possible to speak about a  democratically representative DH international organization. What seems more serious is that the current governance structure prevents other regional and national groups to join ADHO freely and on equal basis preconditions.
>
> I think it is just a matter of time: things soon or later will change also in DH, and new realities will substitute old ones. You may not agree with what I wrote so far, but what is clear is that present structures cannot accommodate the global explosion of DH. The sooner we'll realize this, the better for everyone.
>
> Sorry for this lengthy reply.
>
> Saluti a tutti
>
> Domenico
>
> Il 29/Nov/2015 13:56, "Øyvind Eide" <lister@oeide.no> ha scritto:
> Dear Domenico,
>
> ADHO is an indirect democracy: there are six constituent organisations, with (I think all of them) elected boards. These boards select voting members to the ADHO Steering Committee.
>
> Whether such an indirect structure can be called democratic is a question of how one defines democracy. But there are other organisations using a similar indirect structure that are claimed to be democratic.
>
> Would you prefer to turn ADHO into an organisation with personal membership and a Steering Committee elected on a one person-one vote basis?
>
> Regards,
>
> Øyvind
>
> On 29. nov. 2015, at 06:38, Domenico Fiormonte wrote:
>
> > Hi Élika and everyone,
> >
> > I just realized that I've inserted in the intercultural etc. document some proposals and reflections that are quite general and concern also governance and other topics. Just feel free to move them around if you think they make any sense.
> >
> > Thanks for giving us the opportunity to discuss these issues in a collective way. But the fact that ADHO can either accept or reject these suggestions reminds me of a situation similar to XVII-XVIII century Europe where kings and rulers could or could not accept the proposals made by elected or partially elected assemblies. So once again I like to call a spade a spade: ADHO it is not a democratic organization. We can put as much effort as we wish in drafting our proposals and pushing our requests, but the reality is that our action can be considered, in the best case, what constitutional experts would call a form of 'moral persuasion'.
> > So I'm afraid we are not still equal on this (digital humanities) world.
> >
> > Sorry for being out of line with this. But there is no other way to defend democracy in these days except to start applying it.
> >
> > Domenico
> > Il 29/Nov/2015 06:46, "Élika Ortega" <elikaortega@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > This is the link to part 1 of the document we're working on Governance and Mentorship that Alex Gil and I prepared.
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uM7ePK-SRCqvI8axCKZnykg4H3WBHDAIeUHWd3rLE-c/edit#
> >
> > Please, feel free to add and comment.
> >
> > All best,
> > Élika
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Earlier this week, ADHO announced a change in leadership as John Nerbonne stepped down as ADHO chair and Karina van Dalen-Oskam was elected as interim chair (the announcement is here: http://adho.org/announcements/2015/adho-announces-new-steering-committee-chair). As part of the announcement, Karina called for a discussion on inter-cultural communication:
> >
> > "The first thing I have asked the Steering Committee to do, is to establish a protocol or a set of rules/guidelines for dealing with these fundamental cultural issues. We will not be the only organization that runs into this kind of problems. I have asked all members of the Steering Committee to do some research, and I would welcome input from others as well. Can you find guidelines that we could adopt/adapt for ADHO? Do colleagues from other international organizations have suggestions based on their own experience? Are there policy makers who can help? "
> >
> > This is something GO::DH can contribute to: it is closely related to our core interest AND we have actually discussed parts of this in our early days (see for example, the discussion involving some of these emails: http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-April/000319.html http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-January/000163.html  http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-January/000188.html
> >
> > At our meeting today, the executive decided to lead development of a GO::DH response to Karina's call. Because of the time limitations, we will not be able to have a full membership development and approval process (it is due Nov. 30th), though we may want to develop the interim statement further using that process after it is submitted to ADHO. For this reason it will be submitted formally as a document of the executive (and any additional authors) and as specifically reflecting their views rather than those of the SIG as a whole.
> >
> > But we would very much to develop this as openly and as broadly as possible within those constraints.
> >
> > To do this, we will be developing and writing the document openly in Google Docs between now and Sunday. We have divided our response into three sections:
> >       • Recognising and Accommodating Barriers to Participation (Lead editor: Gimena del Rio)
> >       • Best practice in governance and mentorship (Lead editors: Alex Gil and Élika Ortega
> >       • Best practice in inter-cultural language use and communication (Lead editors: Daniel O'Donnell and Øyvind Eide).
> > Each of the editors will be sharing a link to a Google doc specifically for their section with the list in the next couple of hours. In the document, they will collect notes and points and examples (and ask you to help with your ideas). On Sunday morning, we will then lock the documents down and edit them into a narrative (it is because of time pressure that we will institute this lock down; this lock-down and the lack of time for followup consultation is also why, in the end, it will be submitted as a document of the executive rather than the SIG as a whole).
> >
> > In keeping with the GO::DH ethos, we encourage people to contribute in whatever language you feel most comfortable in and let the editors figure out how to combine the bits and pieces. Our final document will be submitted in three forms: an original language narrative written in the languages the editors feel most comfortable in (probably English and Spanish for the most part), an English-language, lingua franca translation for wide dissemination, and, as Karina has indicated that her first choice would be for Dutch, a Dutch-language submission copy.
> >
> > Let me emphasis the extent to which we welcome your ideas on these topics and invite you to contribute to the formulation of our response. It may also make sense to use the list as a way of conversationally developing ideas under these topics as well, so please feel free to contribute ideas that way, as well, again in whatever language you feel most appropriate.
> >
> > -dan
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