Hi all,

I agree with many of the fine points we make here. Thanks for the reminder to the list of projects like Intute and arts-humanities. It was very sad to see Intute go. I agree with Ernesto about the need for identifiers. That might prove tricky in the practice, but I'm all for it. In the meantime, we need other steps. Don't forget we are building a very different system of distribution, preservation and discoverability here, and we only have the preliminary scaffold! 

Since I started working on AroundDH I have had many wonderful conversations with colleagues in DH, some in this list, some not, on the need for a curated catalog. DHCommons is definitely going in that direction. We recently had a conversation between Ryan Cordell, Elika Ortega, Elena Gonazalez-Blanco and Esteban Romero Frías (with Paul Spence in the background), about doing a prototype of a catalog for hispanophone projects. The ball is still on my court to come with a proposed minimal metadata model for sharing data amongst different cataloguing projects. This would lead to the sort of situation that Serge calls for below. I would be happy to share that model with the larger group, if there's interest, so we can have a broader conversation.

While we're at it, here are my two cents on best avenues for the future of curated lists to help us make sense of the global digital humanities: a) allow many trees to grow. that means making metadata collection for projects should try to meet some standards (that said. each of those trees can have their own google-like solution as Giorgio suggests; b) combine crowdsourced and team-based curation. the two are not mutually exclusive; c) design minimally so that the projects can survive without need for large budgets (arounddh has a budget of 0); d) use github; e) let's continue to build actual global networks of scholars who share interests and collaborate actively. that's the only way these catalogues will mean anything.

N.B. Ernesto, ha! I was just teasing about cheaters. Should I remove the joke? But yeah, to keep the suspense alive I wanted to push the data out after the whole thing is done. The thing also is that we haven't selected all the projects yet, so the data is very incomplete. Also, I want to do that minimal metadata model before I push, so it can actually be useful for conversation.

Thanks all for the wonderful conversation. I feel the project is already yielding some of its best results here.

All best,

A.   

On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Giorgio Guzzetta <guzzettg@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, I would say too that things like Intute are missed, but I am wondering if a crowdsourced catalogue (given the costs etc.) is the way to go or if we could not think of a different one, something like a more intelligent, dedicated search engine (after all Google is a generalist engine with an agenda), focused on disciplinary materials, using "semantics" perhaps. Maybe what should be crowdsourced is building-up the code for such an engine (using github or something similar).

Just a thought

Giorgio

On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

On 23/06/14 12:44, Noiret, Serge wrote:

So we are missing projects like Intute closed in 2011
(http://www.intute.ac.uk/) and we should have added a global
Intute in DH for informing about the field’s developments, a
global WWW VL of DH projects, a place where crowdsourcing
information worldwide.

I'll pass that on to the people here who worked on Intute (called HumBul before that), I'm sure they'll be glad to know they're missed. ;-) Getting funding to justify curated lists of resources was becoming increasingly difficult. To do this properly does take funding or highly motivated (and motivating) crowds.

http://arts-humanities.net/ was surely another attempt to do something similar.

-James


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