I agree with the others that may be possible, ideally with hyperspectral
imaging but also with Photoshop (or the GIMP); it's fairly easy if the
two layers of ink are sufficiently different, otherwise it's much more
complicated. There's a discussion of some techniques using Photoshop by
Julia Craig-McFeely in Vol 4 of our own DM Journal
(http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/3/mcfeely; see the section
'Digital Restoration'): she focusses on damaged manuscripts but the
principles are much the same. I did similar work myself using Photoshop
and no special imaging for the Rinascimento Virtuale project that
Francesco Stella mentioned, so I'm happy to discuss it further and am
also happy to look at some sample images if you want to send them to me
off-list.
I also have a forthcoming article on the topic and some prototype
software which tries to simplify the process; again, contact me if
you're interested.
--
Dr Peter Stokes
Leverhulme Early Career Fellow
Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic
The University of Cambridge
9 West Rd, Cambridge, CB3 9DP
Tel: +44 1223 767314
Fax: +44 1223 335092
stella@unisi.it wrote:
> Dear All,
> a successful experience in multispectral imaging applied to medieval
> manuscripts is the 2004 European Project "Rinascimento Virtuale"
>
http://palin.iccu.sbn.it, now to be continued at the Bergamo University.
>
> I would like also to announce the next Montepulciano (Siena, Italy)
> Seminar "Edizioni Digitali alla ricerca di standards", 4th meeting of the
> Arezzo DIGIMED series and part of the 1st Master Courses "Informatica del
> testo-Edizione digitale" of the Siena-Arezzo University. See please the
> program at
http://www.infotext.unisi.it.
>
> Best wishes
> Francesco Stella
>
>
> Dear all,
>> This is similar to, if not the same as, the technology Dr. Zinn was
>> describing--the Ancient Texts Imaging Group at Brigham Young
>> University uses multi-spectral imaging (first used by NASA) to read
>> palimpsests and darkened papyrus damaged by fire.
>>
>> Here's an old article about the technology, though they're still
>> active and were at the University of Michigan in the last couple of
>> weeks imaging some of our papyrus collection:
>>
http://www.et.byu.edu/news_imaging.htm
>>
>> I know this works best if the two inks on top of each other are made
>> of different compounds, so that one is enhanced as the other one fades
>> (some work best with infrared rays, some with UV, etc). However, I
>> don't think this technology could be applied to scanned images--the
>> leaves would have to be imaged again using the multi-spectral filters.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rebecca Welzenbach
>>
>> Quoting Grover Zinn
grover.zinn@oberlin.edu:
>>
>>> Dear Dr. Wisnicki and All,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if this is totally relevant, but I think that it is.
>>> In dealing with the Greek manuscripts that were discovered at St.
>>> Catherine's (the Sinai) a couple of decades ago (I think), James
>>> Charlesworth (of Princeton Theological Seminary) was able to use
>>> imaging technology from NASA (I believe) to recover images in
>>> palimpsest leaves. (He talked about this while he was at Oberlin
>>> giving the Haskell Lectures).
>>>
>>> I'll try to follow up on this a bit. (And this technology may be
>>> widely known by now.) It seems like it would work to distinguish
>>> between the "two texts".
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Grover Zinn
>>>
>>> Grover A. Zinn
>>> William H. Danforth Professor of Religion (emeritus)
>>> former Associate Dean, College of Arts and Sciences
>>> Oberlin College
>>> Oberlin, OH 44074
>>> 440-775-8866 (department)
>>> grover.zinn@oberlin.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Daniel Paul O'Donnell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd pass this on to our list and digital classicist,
>>>> since some of us may have had experience with similar techniques
>>>> (I'm relatively sure I saw a talk on the question recently). Please
>>>> make sure you cc Dr. Wisnicki, since he may not hang out in our
>>>> circles!
>>>>
>>>> I’ve come across a textual issue that I’m not sure how to resolve,
>>>> and
>>>> I’m hoping that someone on the list might have some suggestions or
>>>> even the answer. I’m currently doing some research on the final
>>>> African diaries of David Livingstone, the missionary and explorer.
>>>> While keeping these diaries, Livingstone was often short of paper and,
>>>> as a result, resorted to various expedients to keep the diaries going.
>>>> One of these expedients was to take printed pages from books and
>>>> newspapers, and, by turning the pages 90 degrees, to write his diary
>>>> over the printed text, but perpendicular to it. Although perhaps
>>>> legible at the time, these diary entries now are often difficult to
>>>> decipher: Livingstone’s ink has faded and the printed text obscures
>>>> what remains.
>>>>
>>>> So, in other words, the diary entries have two layers of text: printed
>>>> matter which runs horizontally across the page, and Livingstone’s
>>>> entries which run vertically. I’ve scanned some of these pages and
>>>> was
>>>> wondering if there’s a way (or, perhaps, a program) by which I might
>>>> remove the printed layer so as to make the handwritten layer
>>>> freestanding and so more legible. Has anyone on the list dealt with
>>>> (and resolved) a similar issue? If so, please email me at
>>>> awisnicki@yahoo.com -- any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Adrian S. Wisnicki
>>>> Honorary Research Fellow
>>>> School of English and Humanities
>>>> Birkbeck College, University of London
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Daniel Paul O'Donnell
>>>> Associate Professor of English
>>>> University of Lethbridge
>>>>
>>>> Chair and CEO, Text Encoding Initiative (
http://www.tei-c.org/)
>>>> Co-Chair, Digital Initiatives Advisory Board, Medieval Academy of
>>>> America
>>>> President-elect (English), Society for Digital Humanities/Société
>>>> pour l'étude des médias interactifs (
http://sdh-semi.org/)
>>>> Founding Director (2003-2009), Digital Medievalist Project
>>>> (
http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/)
>>>>
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http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> Rebecca Welzenbach, MSI 2009
>> School of Information, University of Michigan
>> rwelzenb@umich.edu
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Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse and Celtic
The University of Cambridge
9 West Rd, Cambridge, CB3 9DP
Tel: +44 1223 767314
Fax: +44 1223 335092