I have tried with various browsers, but all naturally in Mac OS X, and from different places, and just cannot get through. I get 'the operation timed out when trying to connect to..' or just 'cannot connect to..' I am trying http://lingo.dcf.uvic.ca:8080/exist/graves/index.xml When I try just http://lingo.dcf.uvic.ca I get the cryptic 'PHP works'. ON the face of it, it looks like something to do with port 8080. And checking, I discover.. 1. I do not seem able to connect to any sites with 8080 2. But can connect to: 8000, 8081, etc 3. There is nothing in the settings in this computer which appears to bar access to any ports 8080. Netstat does not show anything running on a 8080 So very odd indeed Anyone else see this behaviour? Peter