On Monday, June 28, 2004, at 01:28 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
Hi there,
At 11:07 AM 28/06/2004, you wrote:
incidentally, the problems i was complaining about several posts back in terms of having to use IE in my current side-work have been fixed with mozilla 1.7. this had to do with NT-server-based login. mozilla 1.7 has apparently resolved these issues, and i can now log in successfully using mozilla and firefox or camino (both of which rely on mozilla 1.7), as well as IE. i don't know about the recent safari, since i'm still on X 10.2, not panther. my colleague found it interesting, as well. just a reminder that some of this is browser and some is platform . . .
It is nice that NTLM authentication is now built into Mozilla (although it isn't in Safari yet). This authentication is used for access to Windows servers on the network which are using Windows authentication, so it's really a case of the Mozilla guys being pragmatic and offering this convenience to users who regularly have to operate in Windows environments. Presumably Apple will eventually do the same for Safari, given the effort they've already put into making OSX work well in Windows-dominated environments.
despite my antipathy for microsoft, its general attitude to the universe and especially to users, i have to agree with you entirely, here. i've had no trouble at all on NT networks since installing X. i could even take my ibook from network to network with no reboots and no crashes. of course, apple has always been better at playing nice with windows than the other way around, but that, as you say, is the nature of the beast.
j