Dear James et al.,
Many thanks for letting us know (and for taking part in creating Cursus). There's probably a lesson to be learnt regarding future projects, their storage and copyrights.
On a more practical note - is there a person / email address to whom I can write, asking for the database to be reinstated? Perhaps OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DM-L may want to send an email as well, demonstrating to the UEA the value of the database and its appeal to the wider academic public.
Cheers
Eyal
On , James Cummings James.Cummings@digitalmedievalist.org wrote:
Hi Franz and Eyal (and DM-L),
I worked on the project and was responsible for most of its technical
development during its funded period and some of the intellectual
content (transcription, markup, etc.), and then Richard Lewis did
further development on this afterwards. It was running perfectly find
until a server replacement meant that the server it was on was
decommissioned. Since neither Richard nor I work for UEA any more
they were unwilling to let us have access to their servers to set it
up again. We have approached them several times to try and sort this
out, it really wouldn't be too difficult. All the data is safe and
backed up so the site could certainly be put up again. The problem
comes that since David's death all IPR residing in the project belongs
to the University of East Anglia, rather than myself or Richard. (This
is in spite of David's own desire for this material to be openly
available.) I spent 3 years of my life working on it and would love
it to be put back up. I'm occasionally contacted by people who wish
access to it, and I forward them on to UEA as reminders while pointing
them to the wayback machine version. Your message has spurred me to
try again.
Apologies,
-James
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:55, Franz Fischer F.Fischer@ria.ie> wrote:
Dear Eyal,
Very sadly the CURSUS project is dead. You access most of ththe
material via
Internet Archive's WayBack machine:
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20061017205352/http://www.cursus.uea.ac.uk/
Best, Franz
From: dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca [mailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of
eyal
poleg
Sent: 17 July 2011 16:43
To: dm-l@uleth.ca
Subject: [dm-l] Cursus Liturgical Databade
Dear List Members,
A few years back I much enjoyed using the Cursus database - a wonderful
source for the study of English liturgy created by the late David Chadd.
Does anyone know what happened to the site
It appears to have disappeared, and the email address provided is also a
dead-end.
With many thanks
Eyal Poleg
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1997 &
2003 and is compliant with the provisions of the Data Protection Acts
1998 &
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I was just thinking the same thing - perhaps a letter-writing campaign is in order?
Dot
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:51 AM, e.poleg@gmail.com wrote:
Dear James et al.,
Many thanks for letting us know (and for taking part in creating Cursus). There's probably a lesson to be learnt regarding future projects, their storage and copyrights.
On a more practical note - is there a person / email address to whom I can write, asking for the database to be reinstated? Perhaps OTHER MEMBERS OF THE DM-L may want to send an email as well, demonstrating to the UEA the value of the database and its appeal to the wider academic public.
Cheers
Eyal
On , James Cummings James.Cummings@digitalmedievalist.org wrote:
Hi Franz and Eyal (and DM-L),
I worked on the project and was responsible for most of its technical
development during its funded period and some of the intellectual
content (transcription, markup, etc.), and then Richard Lewis did
further development on this afterwards. It was running perfectly find
until a server replacement meant that the server it was on was
decommissioned. Since neither Richard nor I work for UEA any more
they were unwilling to let us have access to their servers to set it
up again. We have approached them several times to try and sort this
out, it really wouldn't be too difficult. All the data is safe and
backed up so the site could certainly be put up again. The problem
comes that since David's death all IPR residing in the project belongs
to the University of East Anglia, rather than myself or Richard. (This
is in spite of David's own desire for this material to be openly
available.) I spent 3 years of my life working on it and would love
it to be put back up. I'm occasionally contacted by people who wish
access to it, and I forward them on to UEA as reminders while pointing
them to the wayback machine version. Your message has spurred me to
try again.
Apologies,
-James
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:55, Franz Fischer F.Fischer@ria.ie> wrote:
Dear Eyal,
Very sadly the CURSUS project is dead. You access most of ththe material via
Internet Archive's WayBack machine:
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20061017205352/http://www.cursus.uea.ac.uk/
Best, Franz
From: dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca [mailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of eyal
poleg
Sent: 17 July 2011 16:43
To: dm-l@uleth.ca
Subject: [dm-l] Cursus Liturgical Databade
Dear List Members,
A few years back I much enjoyed using the Cursus database - a wonderful
source for the study of English liturgy created by the late David Chadd.
Does anyone know what happened to the site (http://www.cursus.uea.ac.uk/)?
It appears to have disappeared, and the email address provided is also a
dead-end.
With many thanks
Eyal Poleg
The Royal Irish Academy is subject to the Freedom of Information Acts 1997 &
2003 and is compliant with the provisions of the Data Protection Acts 1998 &
- For further information see our website www.ria.ie
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/
Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org
Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval
Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca
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Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 13:56, Dot Porter dot.porter@gmail.com wrote:
I was just thinking the same thing - perhaps a letter-writing campaign is in order?
Current status is that they are working on it, and hope to have it back up in the next few months. If it isn't there by Christmas, *then* start a letter-writing campaign. :-)
(But good to know that you'd be willing to!)
-James