With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121
Thanks but I cant open the file
un abrazo,
Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafia http://www.caligrafia.cl/ | Cinearte http://www.cinearte.cl/ | Payadores http://www.payadoreschilenos.cl/ | Personal http://www.olea.biz/ | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
That's odd. Perhaps it got corrupted somehow in downloading. Do I gather from the icon on the dialog box that you were trying to open it in Glyphs? If so, trying grabbing the source from the repository: https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font [https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/16215767?s=400&v=4]https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font psb1558/Joscelyn-fonthttps://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font An authentic secretary hand font. Contribute to psb1558/Joscelyn-font development by creating an account on GitHub. github.com
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121
________________________________ From: Humberto Olea humberto@olea.biz Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 10:06 AM To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) psb6m@virginia.edu Cc: dm-l@uleth.ca dm-l@uleth.ca; medtextl@lists.illinois.edu medtextl@lists.illinois.edu Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
Thanks but I cant open the file
[cid:B9A2B7CF-2604-45C6-8B17-E580FAD3992F]
un abrazo,
[hom] Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafiahttp://www.caligrafia.cl | Cineartehttp://www.cinearte.cl | Payadoreshttp://www.payadoreschilenos.cl | Personalhttp://www.olea.biz | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.
________________________________ From: dm-l dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca on behalf of Humberto Olea humberto@olea.biz Sent: March 29, 2020 8:06 To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) psb6m@virginia.edu Cc: dm-l, MailList dm-l@uleth.ca; medtextl@lists.illinois.edu medtextl@lists.illinois.edu Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
Thanks but I cant open the file
[cid:B9A2B7CF-2604-45C6-8B17-E580FAD3992F]
un abrazo,
[hom] Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafiahttp://www.caligrafia.cl | Cineartehttp://www.cinearte.cl | Payadoreshttp://www.payadoreschilenos.cl | Personalhttp://www.olea.biz | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.
I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:
I can't tell if you're joking (as I hope) or actually for real worried about students submitting theses in secretary hand.
That said, everything I do conforms to the relevant standards. If you copy text out of my specimen PDF, paste it into Word, and change the font to Times New Roman, what you get is . . . just text.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:50 AM To: O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca Cc: Humberto Olea humberto@olea.biz; Baker, Peter S (psb6m) psb6m@virginia.edu; dm-l, MailList dm-l@uleth.ca; medtextl@lists.illinois.edu medtextl@lists.illinois.edu Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.
I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.
________________________________ From: dm-l <dm-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca> on behalf of Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz> Sent: March 29, 2020 8:06 To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> Cc: dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
Thanks but I cant open the file
[cid:1712ad45dbba21476df1]
un abrazo,
[hom] Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafiahttp://www.caligrafia.cl | Cineartehttp://www.cinearte.cl | Payadoreshttp://www.payadoreschilenos.cl | Personalhttp://www.olea.biz | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Please forward suspicious emails to phishing@uleth.ca. I've thought about this,and while my original comment was lighthearted, I think that someone somewhere will probably submit their thesis in this font (or a similar or derivative font), and that's a good thing. I'd bet money that someone will use the font for quotes from period texts in a thesis primarily in a more modern font.
What's the worst that can happen? A student submits their thesis in the font and most 'readers' have to use a screen reader? Sounds suspiciously like a return to the original context where many texts were read aloud for the benefit of those who could not read.
If history has shown us anything it is that we can't foresee the future life of texts or their reproduction ("Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" anyone?).
Ngā mihi stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 23:50, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> wrote: I can't tell if you're joking (as I hope) or actually for real worried about students submitting theses in secretary hand.
That said, everything I do conforms to the relevant standards. If you copy text out of my specimen PDF, paste it into Word, and change the font to Times New Roman, what you get is . . . just text.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates <syeates@gmail.commailto:syeates@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:50 AM To: O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> Cc: Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz>; Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu>; dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.
I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.
________________________________ From: dm-l <dm-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca> on behalf of Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz> Sent: March 29, 2020 8:06 To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> Cc: dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
Thanks but I cant open the file
[cid:17136fe6e42a21476df1]
un abrazo,
[hom] Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafiahttp://www.caligrafia.cl | Cineartehttp://www.cinearte.cl | Payadoreshttp://www.payadoreschilenos.cl | Personalhttp://www.olea.biz | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Please forward suspicious emails to phishing@uleth.ca. I can't think of a single legitimate use for a font like this in a thesis. If they're quoting a text they should just quote it. If they're reproducing a MS in facsimile, wouldn't a photo be better?
On the other hand, for instructional materials, in print or on the web, it could be useful. Or just as a thing to have fun with. And as I said, it's standards compliant, so anyone flummoxed by it could simply copy and paste it into, say, a plain text editor.
P.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates syeates@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:51 PM To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) psb6m@virginia.edu Cc: dm-l@uleth.ca dm-l@uleth.ca; medtextl@lists.illinois.edu medtextl@lists.illinois.edu Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I've thought about this,and while my original comment was lighthearted, I think that someone somewhere will probably submit their thesis in this font (or a similar or derivative font), and that's a good thing. I'd bet money that someone will use the font for quotes from period texts in a thesis primarily in a more modern font.
What's the worst that can happen? A student submits their thesis in the font and most 'readers' have to use a screen reader? Sounds suspiciously like a return to the original context where many texts were read aloud for the benefit of those who could not read.
If history has shown us anything it is that we can't foresee the future life of texts or their reproduction ("Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" anyone?).
Ngā mihi stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 23:50, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> wrote: I can't tell if you're joking (as I hope) or actually for real worried about students submitting theses in secretary hand.
That said, everything I do conforms to the relevant standards. If you copy text out of my specimen PDF, paste it into Word, and change the font to Times New Roman, what you get is . . . just text.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates <syeates@gmail.commailto:syeates@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:50 AM To: O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> Cc: Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz>; Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu>; dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.
I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.
________________________________ From: dm-l <dm-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:dm-l-bounces@uleth.ca> on behalf of Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz> Sent: March 29, 2020 8:06 To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> Cc: dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
Thanks but I cant open the file
[cid:17136fe6e42a21476df1]
un abrazo,
[hom] Humberto Olea, arte - diseño Sitios: Caligrafiahttp://www.caligrafia.cl | Cineartehttp://www.cinearte.cl | Payadoreshttp://www.payadoreschilenos.cl | Personalhttp://www.olea.biz | Contacto: Los Veleros 4564 - Ñuñoa | Skype: humberto.olea | +569 8 294 44 11 |
El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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Ngā mihi stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 08:28, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> wrote: Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Please forward suspicious emails to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca. I can't think of a single legitimate use for a font like this in a thesis. If they're quoting a text they should just quote it. If they're reproducing a MS in facsimile, wouldn't a photo be better?
On the other hand, for instructional materials, in print or on the web, it could be useful. Or just as a thing to have fun with. And as I said, it's standards compliant, so anyone flummoxed by it could simply copy and paste it into, say, a plain text editor.
P.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates <syeates@gmail.commailto:syeates@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:51 PM To: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> Cc: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I've thought about this,and while my original comment was lighthearted, I think that someone somewhere will probably submit their thesis in this font (or a similar or derivative font), and that's a good thing. I'd bet money that someone will use the font for quotes from period texts in a thesis primarily in a more modern font.
What's the worst that can happen? A student submits their thesis in the font and most 'readers' have to use a screen reader? Sounds suspiciously like a return to the original context where many texts were read aloud for the benefit of those who could not read.
If history has shown us anything it is that we can't foresee the future life of texts or their reproduction ("Pride and Prejudice and Zombies" anyone?).
Ngā mihi stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 23:50, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> wrote: I can't tell if you're joking (as I hope) or actually for real worried about students submitting theses in secretary hand.
That said, everything I do conforms to the relevant standards. If you copy text out of my specimen PDF, paste it into Word, and change the font to Times New Roman, what you get is . . . just text.
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Stuart A. Yeates <syeates@gmail.commailto:syeates@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:50 AM To: O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> Cc: Humberto Olea <humberto@olea.bizmailto:humberto@olea.biz>; Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu>; dm-l, MailList <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu <medtextl@lists.illinois.edumailto:medtextl@lists.illinois.edu> Subject: Re: [dm-l] A new secretary hand font
I'm involved in the receiving of the final digital copies of students' theses. I had thought that the graphics and design students who create their own fonts for their theses caused us difficulties, but this raises things to a whole new level.
I guess since it's a Unicode font we can still cut and paste the fore-matter out of the PDF and into something sane to read it for cataloging purposes?
cheers stuart -- ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 08:23, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: Worked for me. Just a demonstration that it's an ill wind that blows no man good, I guess. That's very much Peter. It really looks great! I think I'll start using it for memos.
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Thanks but I cant open the file
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El 28-03-2020, a las 21:58, Baker, Peter S (psb6m) <psb6m@virginia.edumailto:psb6m@virginia.edu> escribió:
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Please forward suspicious emails to phishing@uleth.ca. A trio of additional notes on Joscelyn (the world's only uncompromising secretary hand font!):
First, I've noticed, on Twitter and elsewhere, that a number of people are using Joscelyn in MS Word without turning on OpenType features. How can you tell? If you see the sigma-shaped s [cid:812bfc39-a173-4e91-b3cd-d1038f9f7bc4] anywhere but at the ends of words, OpenType is not turned on, and what you are typing is not authentic secretary hand. There are easy-to-follow (and illustrated) instructions on this matter in the document accompanying the font. This is only an issue with Word: all other major apps (browsers, LibreOffice, InDesign) have basic OpenType features on by default.
Second, development continues (since, cooped up at home, I have so much time on my hands), including new glyphs and new rules, especially enabling the use of combining diacritics without breaking cursive connections, allowing such insane (but attested!) assemblies as [cid:5af4614f-ddcc-4783-8105-f28ac6e7ff3a] for "nonnumquam." Current version is 1.006. So if you are thinking of using Joscelyn with any level of seriousness (e.g. for teaching), I suggest looking in every now and then at https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases to grab the latest version.
Third, I've put up a specimen page at https://psb1558.github.io/Joscelyn-font/. It's unspeakably crude right now, but it does allow you to play around by typing your own text in a box, and I will improve it as time permits.
Stay safe, everyone.
Peter
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121 ________________________________ From: Baker, Peter S (psb6m) psb6m@virginia.edu Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:58 PM To: dm-l@uleth.ca dm-l@uleth.ca; medtextl@lists.illinois.edu medtextl@lists.illinois.edu Subject: A new secretary hand font
With the usual apologies for cross-posting:
Many of you know that in addition to my day job, I have a weird hobby of making fonts for medievalists. This one is a little bit later than the Middle Ages, but may still be of interest.
I have just released a font called "Joscelyn," which I call "an uncompromising secretary hand font" because, unlike any other secretary hand font I have seen, it makes no concessions to modernity. It is based on the main hand of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, MS 488, John Joscelyn's Historiola Collegii Corporis Christi. The hand (not Joscelyn's own) is rather formal, and so less difficult than many secretary hands, but it is as near as I've been able to come so far to an authentic reproduction of the hand.
When I teach paleography, the most difficult bit for my students is always the last--secretary hand. The idea behind this font is that a decent way to learn this difficult hand might be to (1) install the font, (2) start a Microsoft Word file by double-clicking an included template, (3) apply the "Joscelyn" character style, (4) type whatever you like, and (5) just observe. The authenticity of the font depends on seveal OpenType features being enabled, but the template turns them on for you.
At the risk of sounding immodest, I have to say that it's fun to type in this font and see the OpenType features applied in real time--s changed into long s, initial and final forms applied, and much more. And in addition, you can pass as much time as you like playing with the font without running the smallest risk of contracting COVID-19!
The font is free (licensed under the Open Font License). You can get it here:
https://github.com/psb1558/Joscelyn-font/releases
Stay well, everyone.
Peter Baker
Professor and Director of Graduate Admissions Department of English University of Virginia P.O. Box 400121 Charlottesville, Virginia 22904-4121
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