Dear colleagues,
at www.e-sequence.eu has been published a very exciting multimedia edition with facsimile, transcription, translation (into German) of up to 9 mss of Notker chants and additional audio files of the chants sung by Ordo virtutum.
"Audiovisuelle digitale Repräsentation von Sequenzen Notkers des Stammlers († 912) aufgrund ausgewählter Handschriften"
From these mss:
Cod. Sang. 381 Cod. Sang. 484 Cod. Sang. 382 Cod. Sang. 376 Cod. Sang. 378 Cod. Sang. 380 Cod. Sang. 546 Cod. Einsiedeln, StiftsB 121
Best, Torsten
Dear Torsten,
thank you for directing us towards this very interesting edition.
Do you know, by any chance, why haven't the neumas been transcribed?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
Dear colleagues,
at www.e-sequence.eu has been published a very exciting multimedia edition with facsimile, transcription, translation (into German) of up to 9 mss of Notker chants and additional audio files of the chants sung by Ordo virtutum.
"Audiovisuelle digitale Repräsentation von Sequenzen Notkers des Stammlers (â 912) aufgrund ausgewählter Handschriften"
From these mss:
Cod. Sang. 381 Cod. Sang. 484 Cod. Sang. 382 Cod. Sang. 376 Cod. Sang. 378 Cod. Sang. 380 Cod. Sang. 546 Cod. Einsiedeln, StiftsB 121
Best, Torsten
-- Torsten Schassan Digitale Editionen Abteilung Handschriften und Sondersammlungen Herzog August Bibliothek, Postfach 1364, D-38299 Wolfenbuettel Tel.: +49-5331-808-130 (Fax -165), schassan {at} hab.de
Handschriftendatenbank: http://diglib.hab.de/?db=mss
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Dear Neven, dear all,
first of all, thank you for your interest but all these questions are best addressed to the editors (Cc).
(And I haven't got a good answer to your question: What would be the "standard" encoding for neumes today? MEI?)
Best, Torsten
Am 24.01.2013 17:33, schrieb "Neven Jovanović":
Dear Torsten,
thank you for directing us towards this very interesting edition.
Do you know, by any chance, why haven't the neumas been transcribed?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
Neven and others,
Last I looked MEI (and MusicXML) could not be used to handle neumes, as these were pitch-based rather than sign-based.
The only system for encoding neumes that I know of is Louis Barton's "Neume Notation Project," which is XML based I don't know if this is ready for prime time yet. You can find info at the following URL:
http://www.scribeserver.com/medieval/'
Kate Helsen and others are working on a neume transcription project (neume capture from digital images) as well, although I don't know how far along they are on this. I am working on a similar project that intersects these two, although progress will depend on me getting release time next year to focus on this.
Michael
/*************************************** * Michael L. Norton, Ph.D. * Associate Professor * Dept. of Computer Science * School of Music * MSC 4103 / ISAT-CS #209 * James Madison University * Harrisonburg VA 23807 * 540-568-2777 * nortonml@jmu.edu **************************************/
On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Torsten Schassan schassan@hab.de wrote:
Dear Neven, dear all,
first of all, thank you for your interest but all these questions are best addressed to the editors (Cc).
(And I haven't got a good answer to your question: What would be the "standard" encoding for neumes today? MEI?)
Best, Torsten
Am 24.01.2013 17:33, schrieb "Neven Jovanović":
Dear Torsten,
thank you for directing us towards this very interesting edition.
Do you know, by any chance, why haven't the neumas been transcribed?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
-- Torsten Schassan Digitale Editionen Abteilung Handschriften und Sondersammlungen Herzog August Bibliothek, Postfach 1364, D-38299 Wolfenbuettel Tel.: +49-5331-808-130 (Fax -165), schassan {at} hab.de
Handschriftendatenbank: http://diglib.hab.de/?db=mss
Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
Dear Michael, some years ago Sam Barrett (Cambridge University) for the digital edition of the "Corpus Rhythmorum Musicum" (partial version in www.corimu.unisi.it) has invented a kind of alphanumeric transcription of neumes and neumatic melodies that is searchable by the software and by every search engine. It isn't a standard, but a practical way to encode neumes.(see Neume table under Tables Menu). Best wishes Francesco Stella Universita di Siena
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norton, Michael Lee - nortonml" nortonml@jmu.edu To: "Torsten Schassan" schassan@hab.de Cc: dm-l@uleth.ca; "Christoph Flueler" christophe.flueler@unifr.ch; stefan.morent@uni-tuebingen.de Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [dm-l] e-sequence - a multimedia edition
Neven and others,
Last I looked MEI (and MusicXML) could not be used to handle neumes, as these were pitch-based rather than sign-based.
The only system for encoding neumes that I know of is Louis Barton's "Neume Notation Project," which is XML based I don't know if this is ready for prime time yet. You can find info at the following URL:
http://www.scribeserver.com/medieval/'
Kate Helsen and others are working on a neume transcription project (neume capture from digital images) as well, although I don't know how far along they are on this. I am working on a similar project that intersects these two, although progress will depend on me getting release time next year to focus on this.
Michael
/*************************************** * Michael L. Norton, Ph.D. * Associate Professor * Dept. of Computer Science * School of Music * MSC 4103 / ISAT-CS #209 * James Madison University * Harrisonburg VA 23807 * 540-568-2777 * nortonml@jmu.edu **************************************/
On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Torsten Schassan schassan@hab.de wrote:
Dear Neven, dear all,
first of all, thank you for your interest but all these questions are best addressed to the editors (Cc).
(And I haven't got a good answer to your question: What would be the "standard" encoding for neumes today? MEI?)
Best, Torsten
Am 24.01.2013 17:33, schrieb "Neven Jovanović":
Dear Torsten,
thank you for directing us towards this very interesting edition.
Do you know, by any chance, why haven't the neumas been transcribed?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
-- Torsten Schassan Digitale Editionen Abteilung Handschriften und Sondersammlungen Herzog August Bibliothek, Postfach 1364, D-38299 Wolfenbuettel Tel.: +49-5331-808-130 (Fax -165), schassan {at} hab.de
Handschriftendatenbank: http://diglib.hab.de/?db=mss
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Thanks for the information, Francesco.
I also got an email concerning the "Barfly" system for encoding modern chant notation (see http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/bfgregorian.html). This is a part of, or an extension to, the ABC encoding standard. More on that at http://abc.sourceforge.net/. My thanks go to John McChesney-Young for bringing this to my attention.
Michael /*************************************** * Michael L. Norton, Ph.D. * Associate Professor * Dept. of Computer Science * School of Music * MSC 4103 / ISAT-CS #209 * James Madison University * Harrisonburg VA 23807 * 540-568-2777 * nortonml@jmu.edumailto:nortonml@jmu.edu **************************************/
On Jan 24, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Center for Comparative Studies <centrostudicomparati@libero.itmailto:centrostudicomparati@libero.it> wrote:
Dear Michael, some years ago Sam Barrett (Cambridge University) for the digital edition of the "Corpus Rhythmorum Musicum" (partial version in www.corimu.unisi.ithttp://www.corimu.unisi.it) has invented a kind of alphanumeric transcription of neumes and neumatic melodies that is searchable by the software and by every search engine. It isn't a standard, but a practical way to encode neumes.(see Neume table under Tables Menu). Best wishes Francesco Stella Universita di Siena
----- Original Message ----- From: "Norton, Michael Lee - nortonml" <nortonml@jmu.edumailto:nortonml@jmu.edu> To: "Torsten Schassan" <schassan@hab.demailto:schassan@hab.de> Cc: <dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca>; "Christoph Flueler" <christophe.flueler@unifr.chmailto:christophe.flueler@unifr.ch>; <stefan.morent@uni-tuebingen.demailto:stefan.morent@uni-tuebingen.de> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [dm-l] e-sequence - a multimedia edition
Neven and others,
Last I looked MEI (and MusicXML) could not be used to handle neumes, as these were pitch-based rather than sign-based.
The only system for encoding neumes that I know of is Louis Barton's "Neume Notation Project," which is XML based I don't know if this is ready for prime time yet. You can find info at the following URL:
http://www.scribeserver.com/medieval/'
Kate Helsen and others are working on a neume transcription project (neume capture from digital images) as well, although I don't know how far along they are on this. I am working on a similar project that intersects these two, although progress will depend on me getting release time next year to focus on this.
Michael
/*************************************** * Michael L. Norton, Ph.D. * Associate Professor * Dept. of Computer Science * School of Music * MSC 4103 / ISAT-CS #209 * James Madison University * Harrisonburg VA 23807 * 540-568-2777 * nortonml@jmu.edu **************************************/
On Jan 24, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Torsten Schassan schassan@hab.de wrote:
Dear Neven, dear all,
first of all, thank you for your interest but all these questions are best addressed to the editors (Cc).
(And I haven't got a good answer to your question: What would be the "standard" encoding for neumes today? MEI?)
Best, Torsten
Am 24.01.2013 17:33, schrieb "Neven Jovanović": Dear Torsten,
thank you for directing us towards this very interesting edition.
Do you know, by any chance, why haven't the neumas been transcribed?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
-- Torsten Schassan Digitale Editionen Abteilung Handschriften und Sondersammlungen Herzog August Bibliothek, Postfach 1364, D-38299 Wolfenbuettel Tel.: +49-5331-808-130 (Fax -165), schassan {at} hab.de
Handschriftendatenbank: http://diglib.hab.de/?db=mss
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