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Fwd: [dm-l] What would people like to see in a primer and/or series of primers?
by Kathryn Powell 24 Jun '04

24 Jun '04

Sorry, meant to post this to the list earlier, but sent it from the wrong address. Cheers, Kathryn Begin forwarded message: From: Kathryn Powell <kathryn.e.powell(a)man.ac.uk> Date: 24 June 2004 9:24:07 BST To: Digital Medievalist Community mailing list <dm-l(a)uleth.ca>, daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca Subject: Re: [dm-l] What would people like to see in a primer and/or series of primers? Okay, I'll venture a response to Dan's question... I think any primer should include some advice regarding IT project management. Managing a research project involving the creation of digital resources can be a quite different experience from managing a more traditional research project, and a lot of people go into it for the first time blind to what's involved. Such a guide might include advice about what you need to know before putting in a grant bid, how to think about time and budget, how to storyboard a website or database, and keeping academic and IT resources in dialogue. I certainly wish we'd had such advice when we began work on our database project here at Manchester -- it might have saved us some time that could be put towards further academic research. And thanks to Dan for creating this list -- I think it has the potential to be a really useful resource. Cheers, Kathryn Kathryn Powell Research Fellow Centre for Anglo-Saxon Studies University of Manchester Oxford Road Manchester M13 9PL UK (+44) 0161 275 3157 kathryn.e.powell(a)man.ac.uk http://homepage.mac.com/kapowe On 23 Jun 2004, at 23:14, Daniel O'Donnell wrote: > I've had a couple of off line responses to my question about a primer. > This might be a good opportunity for participants at all levels of > expertise to mention the types of thing they wish they knew (had > known) in starting or completing various projects. > > It is important in a community like this that members not feel > intimidated about raising simple questions or problems as well as > complex or advanced. Don't be afraid to say what you think for the > list as a whole! > > Cheers. > -dan > > -- > Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD > Associate Professor of English > University of Lethbridge > Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 > Tel. (403) 329-2377 > Fax. (403) 382-7191 > E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> > Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > dm-l mailing list > dm-l(a)uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l > >

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What every digital medievalist should know?
by Daniel O'Donnell 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

As part of our (coming) website, we are thinking of including working paper, guidelines, project reports, etc. Something I'd like to see is a version of Jim Marchand's What Every Medievalist Should Know (WEMSK) on medtext for scholars working with digital media. Obviously "a primer for working with computers" is too broad; but perhaps some kind of topic by topic discussion of important issues one should know about. Does anybody know of a good community-focussed digital primer that might serve as a model (e.g. perhaps aimed at teachers or some similar group)? This idea is still in its early stages. My preference would be for something developed through the community as a whole. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Re: Experience using Microsoft's XSLT? and Is there a good acronym FAQ anywhere?
by Daniel O'Donnell 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

Reposting for Roberto Rosselli Del Turco: Il mer, 2004-06-23 alle 04:19, Daniel O'Donnell ha scritto: >> >> For those who don't know what I am talking about: XSLT (eXtensible >> Stylesheet Language-Tranformations) is a stylesheet language used >> (amongst other things) for converting documents written in XML >> (eXtensible Markup Language) such as used by the TEI (Text Encoding >> Initiative) into HTML for display on the web. >> >> Once the web site is up, we should put all these acronyms into a FAQ >> (Frequently Asked Questions) file. Does anybody know of a good existing >> list of acronyms for beginners? > > Apart from good old Acronym Finder (http://www.acronymfinder.com/), here are some similar sites (in the sense that you don't have a listing, you have to look for the term you want explained): http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/, http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/index.html http://www.pcwebopaedia.com/ This is a long list of acronyms, but not fully up to date and subject to quite restrictive terms of use: http://www.comadvantage.com/babel.html Ciao -- Roberto Rosselli Del Turco roberto.rossellidelturco at unito.it Dipartimento di Scienze rosselli at ling.unipi.it del Linguaggio Then spoke the thunder DA Universita' di Torino Datta: what have we given? (TSE) Hige sceal the heardra, heorte the cenre, mod sceal the mare, the ure maegen litlath. (Maldon 312-3) -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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[dm-l]: Overlapping Markup SIG (WAS Experience using Microsoft's XSLT?)
by Dorothy C. Porter 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

Hello All, At last year's Text Encoding Initiative (TEI) Member's Meeting, I (along with Peter Robinson, and Patrick Durusau of the Society for Biblical Literature) convened a Special Interest Group on Overlapping Markup issues. We haven't done very much since then, unfortunately, but Patrick and I are slowly working on a web page that will highlight various different approaches to dealing with overlapping markup and conflicting hierarchies. I'll post an announcement here when the page goes live - it's good to see that folks are so interested in this problem! There is also an overlapping markup listserv, to join go to http://listserv.brown.edu/tei-ol-sig.html. (Also, if you're interested in reading the report from last year's meeting, you can find it here: http://www.tei-c.org.uk/Activities/SIG/Overlap/olm01.txt) Many thanks to Daniel et. al. for putting this listserv together! Dot Porter *************************************** Dorothy Carr Porter, Program Coordinator Collaboratory for Research in Computing for Humanities University of Kentucky 351 William T. Young Library Lexington, KY 40506 dporter(a)uky.edu 859-257-9549 ***************************************

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Important Adminstrative Note
by Daniel O'Donnell 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Hello all, Sorry for my many postings today. When the listserver crashed this morning it reset a number of options on the list, including one important setting which I have just restored: ***When you hit reply on this list, your e-mail will be automatically distributed to the list***. If you want to e-mail somebody privately, you will need to enter their address explicitly in the address line. This was the original setting, but it was changed this morning by accident. This behaviour is the same as that found on ansax-l, and medtext-l, but is different from that on tei-l. The main danger comes if you are complaining about a posting to a friend. If you're not careful, you may end up posting your comments publicly. Since none of us would do that, however, we should be o.k. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Experience using Microsoft's XSLT? and Is there a good acronym FAQ anywhere?
by Daniel O'Donnell 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Does anybody have experience using the recent releases of MSXML? I'm wondering in particular if their xslt is standards compliant. I understand from the XML bible <http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/books/bible2/chapters/ch17.html> that it is or was not. Microsoft's own pages make it sound like the latest versions might be <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/xmlsdk/htm…>, but it can be difficult to trust them sometimes. I ask because a neat tool (Textpipe <http://www.crystalsoftware.com.au/textpipe.html>) I use has now built-in XSLT, but depends on MSXML. For those who don't know what I am talking about: XSLT (eXtensible Stylesheet Language-Tranformations) is a stylesheet language used (amongst other things) for converting documents written in XML (eXtensible Markup Language) such as used by the TEI (Text Encoding Initiative) into HTML for display on the web. Once the web site is up, we should put all these acronyms into a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) file. Does anybody know of a good existing list of acronyms for beginners? -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Test. The server looks like it is up again.
by Daniel O'Donnell 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

As in the message line. Please excuse this test. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Server problems
by Daniel O'Donnell 22 Jun '04

22 Jun '04

Of course we no sooner start a list than everything goes kaplooey. The University of Lethbridge has been having listserv administration problems since about 10am Mountain time. This may or may not prevent messages from getting through and is preventing me from accepting new subscriptions. Hopefully it will be over soon. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Welcome
by Daniel O'Donnell 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

Hello all, I'd like to thank you for the great interest you have shown in this list. I see that a welcome message I had set up to explain the list's goals did not always go out. I thought I'd break the ice, therefore, by mentioning a bit more about our goals for this list. As I said in the notice announcing the list, <dm-l(a)uleth.ca> is the first part of the Digital Medievalist Project. In its final form, this will be a "Community of Practice" for medievalists working with digital media. There will be a refereed on-line journal for research articles, commentary pieces, project reports, bibliography, and reviews, and a notice board/community centre where we will be able to exchange expertise, establish and announce new projects, share tips, post examples, and work together on common problems. Our designer is working on the site right now. We hope to have it up by September, with the first issue of the journal following later in the Fall. I'll be issuing a cfp for some remaining slots in the first two issues of the journal very soon. As some of you know, we also began sponsoring conference sessions at Kalamazoo this year. We hope to do the same next year, and, in the near future at Leeds. Our goals for this list are similar to those for the project as a whole. We hope that this will become a collegial forum for the exchange of expertise and the development of best practice in the use of digital media by medievalists. There are a number of other lists that cover aspects of the material we will be discussing here (e.g. tei-l for Text Encoding Initiative encoding matters; humanist-l for general aspects of computing and the humanities). Our hope is that the distinguishing feature of this list will be its focus on the practical needs of a specific community rather than a specific topic. I.e. rather than specialising in one aspect of research involving digital media, we hope to serve as a clearing house and community centre for information on the entire process of producing digital resources by people with an interest in medieval studies. The topics covered, therefore, may be specific to the middle ages (e.g. problems encoding or producing digital images of manuscripts or archaeological artefacts), or of more general application (e.g. questions involving interface design, or advice on tools). We imagine our discussion will often involve material from other, more specialised lists and resources, and encourage you to direct members to these lists (and report back on the answers) when they are better suited to the questions involved. In short, the goal of this list is to build a community of people with a common interest. By sharing expertise and information, we hope gradually to improve the ability of all to work in the new media. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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