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Re: [dm-l] [Fwd: encoding maps, graphics with text?]
by Joris van.Zundert 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

I didn't get round to downloading Firefox 0.9.1, will do soon and report :-) In Firefox 0.7 it seems that the farther down the page you browse the higher in the browser window a yellow popup is positioned. So if I scroll down to the very bottom of a page and hover the cursor above e.g. "Laura" at the foot of a page, the yellow popup is displayed at the complete top of my browser window (so very much not near the "Laura" in question). Sometimes in such a case I can't see the the yellow popup, because it's seems to be depicted somewhere beyond the top of my browser window. A minor detail I guess, thought I'd mention it anyhow. Hope it's helpfull. I'm gonna call it a day now (it's 6.30 PM overhere ;-) s.y., Joris >>> mholmes(a)uvic.ca 7/7/04 18:15:45 >>> Hi there, At 08:26 AM 07/07/2004, you wrote: >Yes, it's up and running. Nice site too. I'm browsing with Mozilla Firefox >0.7. Site seems to display itself correctly, though the javascript that >pops up the yellow help tags has some positioning problems. I'm glad someone can see it! Our own researcher is having trouble accessing it from Paris (and is doing a presentation on it soon...) The yellow popups work fine for me in Firefox 0.9.1 -- I wonder if it's the older Firefox that's problematic? What problems do you see? Cheers, Martin > >>> mholmes(a)uvic.ca 7/7/04 17:13:46 >>> >At 01:34 AM 07/07/2004, you wrote: > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >But alas > >This website does not respond to me > >It seems to be there this morning. It needs a modern browser (it's XHTML >with an XML declaration), but it's not particularly challenging from the >browser's point of view. Can anyone else see it? > >Cheers, >Martin > > >Peter > > > > > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Our Graves Diary project includes enclosures such as letters, telegrams > > > etc. You can see the first few months of the markup (in TEI) accessible > > > through an eXist/Cocoon interface here: > > > > > > > <<http://lingo.dcf.uvic.ca:8080/exist/graves/index.xml>http://lingo.dcf.uvic.ca:8080/exist/graves/index.xml> > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Martin > > > > > > At 01:21 PM 06/07/2004, you wrote: > > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> > > >> I believe somebody here was discussing this. > > >> -dan > > >> > > >> -------- Original Message -------- > > >> Subject: encoding maps, graphics with text? > > >> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:15:23 -0400 > > >> From: Julia Flanders <Julia_Flanders(a)BROWN.EDU> > > >> Reply-To: Julia Flanders <Julia_Flanders(a)BROWN.EDU> > > >> To: TEI-L(a)LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Does anyone know of any projects which are using the TEI to encode > > >> materials that have substantial graphical content as well as text, > > >> e.g. maps, diagrams, that sort of thing? I'm interested in ways of > > >> making explicit linkages between specific locations in a digitized > > >> image and specific chunks of text in the encoded transcription. > > >> > > >> Many thanks! Julia > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD > > >> Associate Professor of English > > >> University of Lethbridge > > >> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 > > >> Tel. (403) 329-2377 > > >> Fax. (403) 382-7191 > > >> E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> > > >> Home Page > <<http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> dm-l mailing list > > >> dm-l(a)uleth.ca > > >> > <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l>http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l > > >> > > > > > > ______________________________________ > > > Martin Holmes > > > University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre > > > mholmes(a)uvic.ca > > > martin(a)mholmes.com > > > mholmes(a)halfbakedsoftware.com > > > <http://www.mholmes.com>http://www.mholmes.com > > > http://web.uvic.ca/hcmc/ > > > <http://www.halfbakedsoftware.com>http://www.halfbakedsoftware.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dm-l mailing list > > > dm-l(a)uleth.ca > > > > <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l>http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l > > > > > > >-- > >Centre for Technology and the Arts, > <http://www.cta.dmu.ac.uk>www.cta.dmu.ac.uk > >The Canterbury Tales Project, > <http://www.cta.dmu.ac.uk/projects/ctp>www.cta.dmu.ac.uk/projects/ctp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >dm-l mailing list< BR>>dm-l(a)uleth.ca > ><http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l>http://listserv.uleth.ca/ > mailman/listinfo/dm-l > >______________________________________ >Martin Holmes >University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre >mholmes(a)uvic.ca >martin(a)mholmes.com >mholmes(a)halfbakedsoftware.com ><http://www.mholmes.com>http://www.mholmes.com >http://web.uvic.ca/hcmc/ ><http://www.halfbakedsoftware.com>http://www.halfbakedsoftware.com > > >_______________________________________________ >dm-l mailing list >dm-l(a)uleth.ca ><http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l>http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >_______________________________________________ >dm-l mailing list >dm-l(a)uleth.ca >http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l ______________________________________ Martin Holmes University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre mholmes(a)uvic.ca martin(a)mholmes.com mholmes(a)halfbakedsoftware.com http://www.mholmes.com http://web.uvic.ca/hcmc/ http://www.halfbakedsoftware.com _______________________________________________ dm-l mailing list dm-l(a)uleth.ca http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l

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[Fwd: Technology Conference call for appers]
by Daniel O'Donnell 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Technology Conference call for appers Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:19:42 EDT From: Ralph Mathisen <N330009(a)VM.SC.EDU> Reply-To: Medieval Texts - Philology Codicology and Technology <MEDTEXTL(a)listserv.uiuc.edu> To: MEDTEXTL(a)listserv.uiuc.edu UPDATED CALL FOR PAPERS: ANCIENT STUDIES -- NEW TECHNOLOGY III The third biennial conference on the topic of "Ancient Studies -- New Technology: The World Wide Web and Scholarly Research, Communication, and Publication in Ancient, Byzantine, and Medieval Studies" will be held December 3-5, 2004, at James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA. Topics of particular interest include 1) the digital museum; 2) the digital classroom; 3) the digital scholar; and 4) theoretical issues such as "knowledge representation". 300-word electronic abstracts dealing with these issues and with other ways in which the WEB can help to promote classical, ancient, Byzantine, and medieval studies may be directed to Ralph Mathisen, Program Chair, at ralphwm(a)uiuc.edu and ruricius(a)msn.com (snail-mail: Department of History, 309 Gregory Hall, University of Illinois, Urbana, IL 61801). Deadline for receipt of abstracts is August 31, 2004. Programs for previous conferences may be consulted at http://www.roman- emperors.org/program.htm (2000 Conference) and http://tabula.rutgers.edu/conferences/ancient_studies2002/ conf_program.html (2002 Conference). The website for the upcoming conference is located at http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/asnt3. Ralph W. Mathisen Department of History, University of Illinois 309 Gregory Hall, 810 S Wright ST, MC-466, Urbana IL 61801 USA Phone: 217-244-2075, FAX: 217-333-2297 Director, Biographical Database for Late Antiquity Administrator: LT-ANTIQ, NUMISM-L, PROSOP-L EMAIL: ralphwm(a)uiuc.edu or ruricius(a)msn.com Society for Late Antiquity Web Site: http://www.sc.edu/ltantsoc Geography of Roman Gaul Site: http://www.sc.edu/ltantsoc/geogmain.htm Field Site: http://www.history.uiuc.edu/areas/lateantiquity.html -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Any experience with standoff markup?
by Daniel O'Donnell 04 Jul '04

04 Jul '04

Does anybody have experience with standoff markup? That is the name given to markup, as I understand it, that is stored independently of the actual text in question. Is it currently possible even? -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Experience with Full Text Searching
by Daniel O'Donnell 02 Jul '04

02 Jul '04

Hello all, I have another question for the collective wisdom. What are people's experience with full text searching. We are building an xml-ised database of original journal articles. These will be retrievable using metadata tags like issue, author, key words, subjects, etc. The problem is that building full text retrieval capabilities into the same search engine will ultimately affect display times. I guess I have two questions: a) is full text searching of academic articles a sine qua non? I used to think everybody did it, but I've been looking a bit more and see it is less usual than I thought in the case of larger libraries. b) have people suggestions for incorporating full text searching into a document database. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Metadata Creation Survey for creating better tools
by Jacqueline de Ruiter 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Fyi. Jacqueline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:44:30 -0400 From: Jane Greenberg <janeg(a)ILS.UNC.EDU> To: DC-GENERAL(a)JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Metadata Creation Survey for creating better tools Participants Needed! Metadata Creators / Catalogers, Librarians, Web Architects, and other people interested in improving the state-of-the-art metadata tools are needed to participate in the AMeGA project's survey. The goal of the AMeGA Project (http://ils.unc.edu/mrc/amega.htm) is to identify and recommend functionalities for applications supporting automatic metadata generation in the library / bibliographic control community. The project is being led by the School of Information and Library Sciences, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and is being supported by the Library of Congress. The AMeGA project is being conducted in connection with Section 4.2 of the Library of Congress Bibliographic Control Action Plan that is providing leadership to libraries and other information centers in this new millennium. To participate in the study, go to: http://ils.unc.edu/mrc/amega_survey.htm Questions about the study should be directed to Principal Investigator: Jane Greenberg, Associate Professor School of Information and Library Science, CB#3360, 207A Manning Hall University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, N.C. 27599-3360 Tel: (919) 962-7024, Fax: (919) 962-8071 E-mail: janeg(a)ils.unc.edu The survey is currently open and will close promptly on July 31, 2004, at 5:00 p.m. Thank you for your time and interest. Sincerely, The AMeGA Project Research Team (Please feel free to forward this call to local, national, or global listservs of interest.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:44:30 -0400 From: Jane Greenberg <janeg(a)ILS.UNC.EDU> To: DC-GENERAL(a)JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Metadata Creation Survey for creating better tools Participants Needed! Metadata Creators / Catalogers, Librarians, Web Architects, and other people interested in improving the state-of-the-art metadata tools are needed to participate in the AMeGA project's survey. The goal of the AMeGA Project (http://ils.unc.edu/mrc/amega.htm) is to identify and recommend functionalities for applications supporting automatic metadata generation in the library / bibliographic control community. The project is being led by the School of Information and Library Sciences, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and is being supported by the Library of Congress. The AMeGA project is being conducted in connection with Section 4.2 of the Library of Congress Bibliographic Control Action Plan that is providing leadership to libraries and other information centers in this new millennium. To participate in the study, go to: http://ils.unc.edu/mrc/amega_survey.htm Questions about the study should be directed to Principal Investigator: Jane Greenberg, Associate Professor School of Information and Library Science, CB#3360, 207A Manning Hall University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, N.C. 27599-3360 Tel: (919) 962-7024, Fax: (919) 962-8071 E-mail: janeg(a)ils.unc.edu The survey is currently open and will close promptly on July 31, 2004, at 5:00 p.m. Thank you for your time and interest. Sincerely, The AMeGA Project Research Team (Please feel free to forward this call to local, national, or global listservs of interest.) ____________________________________ Zandhofsestraat 127, 3572 GE Utrecht +31(0)30-2734012 / 06-51510174 www.bookmark.demon.nl

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DTD for Editing Medieval Booklists ?
by Lucien Reynhout 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Dear dm-l Community Members, Next fall, Ill have to present a lecture in the framework of a study day dedicated to medieval libraries and booklists (medieval lists of manuscript and, more rarely, printed books) in the Southern Low Countries (http://calenda.revues.org/nouvelle4283.html). I will speak about the possibility of an electronic publication (of the textual contents, not only the bibliographic references) of those medieval sources, which are at the same time texts and structured data bases for the knowledge of manuscript books and medieval libraries. I naturally turned towards the rich concept of structured texts/documents and markup languages, and towards XML and the TEI which seems to be at the forefront of text encoding standardization in the humanities. Now, although I did very carefully examine the TEI website, I didnt find any mention of a project dealing with a DTD on that particular field. Could anybody of yours be so kind as to inform me of such an initiative if he/she knows about it? Thank you very much, Lucien Reynhout Royal Library of Belgium ************************************************************************ ************* Dr. Lucien Reynhout Assistant / Assistent Bibliothèque royale de Belgique / Koninklijke Bibliotheek van België Keizerslaan 4 Boulevard de l'Empereur B - 1000 BRUSSEL / BRUXELLES Tl +32 (0)2 519.57.02 Fx +32 (0)2 519.57.10 lucien.reynhout(a)kbr.be ************************************************************************ *************

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Hacks: an example.
by Daniel O'Donnell 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Speaking of hacks, here is an example of what I was talking about. It is from the <www.digitalmedievalist.org> website's screen css <http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/dmlscreen.css>. b) Screen Geography */ div { /* controls width and location of all blocks except div.navigation and children */ margin-left: 20%; max-width: 35em; top: 0; } div.navigation { margin-left: 0; position: absolute; /* position: absolute is for MSIE only; the style is removed below */ top: 15px; left: 4px; width: 18%; } /* MSIE workaround */ /* This instruction hides "position:fixed" from MSIE5.5~6.0 */ body>div.navigation { position: fixed; } This is a harmless enough hack, I suspect (it would be better if the second instruction referred to "body div.navigation" to keep the two instructions exactly parallel). Currently it works; if MSIE later implements the > child rule, then it won't work for MSIE anymore, and users of MSIE will end up with scrolling navigation. I am beginning to wonder if it is not better, however, to design a sheet to the standard, and then allow users of MSIE to choose a simpler sheet if some effect doesn't work well in their browser. Comments? -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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[Fwd: The time has come to make some <choice>s]
by Daniel O'Donnell 01 Jul '04

01 Jul '04

Hello all, I realise that many of us are on the TEI list and hence have seen this; it is an important question, however, and I thought I would distribute it here as well. If you are just beginning in computer applications, the issue is fairly advanced (though it has already come up), and you're not likely to write a position paper on it in the next 30 days; I hope in this one instance, you'll forgive me for not explaining it unless asked. -dan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: The time has come to make some s Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:20:35 -0400 From: Syd Bauman <Syd_Bauman(a)BROWN.EDU> Reply-To: editors(a)tei-c.org To: TEI-L(a)LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS TO INFLUENCE P5! ---- --- ---------- -- --------- --- Over the last year there has been some public discussion of the "replacement Janus" mechanism for P5. The quick overview is that, in order to avoid putting content (which might need markup) in attribute values (which can't have markup), it has been suggested that we change the so-called Janus tags from things like <corr sic="adnire">admire</corr> <orig reg="w">vv</orig>ith <orig reg="w">vv</orig>hat charity the <abbr expan="Text Encoding Initiative Consortium">tei-c</abbr> to things like <choice> <sic>adnire</sic> <corr>admire</corr> </choice> <choice><orig>vv</orig><reg>w</reg></choice>ith <choice> <reg>w</reg> <orig>vv</orig> </choice>hat charity the <choice src="abbr"> <abbr>tei-c</abbr> <expan>Text Encoding Initiative Consortium</expan> </choice> The TEI Council would like to enlist the assistance of interested parties in helping them consider the issues involved. Therefore, this is a call for volunteers to write up a short working paper on the issues surrounding the use of the new mechanism and of the previous attribute mechanism. (Note that some have referred to the new mechanism as the "choice" mechanism, but the name of the element used in the examples above is not carved in stone, and is one issue the authors of this working paper may wish to address.) Current thinking is that a first draft of the paper should be ready by Sat 07 Aug, and the final version should be ready on Thu 16 Sep. Interested volunteers should reply to editors(a)tei-c.org. -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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palaeography and computing
by Arianna Ciula 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Dear all, as a Ph.D. student working on palaeography and computing, I find this mailing list very useful and I start my contribution with a question. Is there any sort of DTD designed with the purpose of describing a medieval manuscript, not just in its physical features as a global object, but in its palaeographical features? I mean any kind of XML grill and hierarchy able to encounter description and comments on the shape of letters, of ligatures and so on, even related just to one period and one handwritten style. I know the TEI guidelines and the efforts of some specific projects such as Digital Scriptorium, but none of them seems to me to go into the image with the granularity needed for a palaeographical analysis. Cheers, Arianna Ciula ---------------------- Arianna Ciula arianna.ciula(a)kcl.ac.uk

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wikis
by Jeffrey Fisher 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

i've been waiting to see if someone was going to reply to dan's suggestion last week about a wiki. after reading dan's post about publishing, open access, and community standards, i had been thinking that a wiki might be a good idea for this community. is the lack of response a rejection of the idea? or is it more about people being unfamiliar with wikis? in any case, it seems like a good topic to discuss. it might be a good public service for this list to put together a FAQ, as well. i know that's very 80s/90s usenet, but also at least worth thinking about, especially as more and more links to resources are posted to the list. dan: is it possible to get lethbridge to add search functionality to the list archives? that might help with keeping all this collective knowledge accessible down the road. just a thought. cheers, j jeffrey fisher ass't prof religious studies & philosophy bethany college bethany, wv

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