Dear list,
a treasure has recently appeared on-line:
http://www.vaticanlibrary.va/home.php?pag=mss_digitalizzati Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana Manoscritti digitalizzati elenco aggiornato al 23 gennaio 2013
There is also some bibliographic infrastructure: http://www.mss.vatlib.it/guii/console?service=simple
The question is: what can we build with this?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Hrvatska / Croatia
"Neither the text nor the images may be reproduced, in any form, without the authorisation of the Vatican Library, 00120, Vatican City. "
What is the likelihood that the Vatican Library would release the images and metadata to be build with? (An honest question - I'm not really being snarky)
Dot
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:51 PM, "Neven Jovanović" neven.jovanovic@ffzg.hrwrote:
Dear list,
a treasure has recently appeared on-line:
http://www.vaticanlibrary.va/home.php?pag=mss_digitalizzati Biblioteca Apostolica Vaticana Manoscritti digitalizzati elenco aggiornato al 23 gennaio 2013
There is also some bibliographic infrastructure: http://www.mss.vatlib.it/guii/console?service=simple
The question is: what can we build with this?
Best,
Neven
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Hrvatska / Croatia
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On 2 February 2013 02:58, Dot Porter dot.porter@gmail.com wrote:
"Neither the text nor the images may be reproduced, in any form, without the authorisation of the Vatican Library, 00120, Vatican City. "
Is this from the BAV website? I haven't noticed that... If it means the BAV think they hold a copyright on the *TEXT* in the manuscript, that's totaly unheard of - and absurd! :s Or does "text" refer to the manuscript descriptions? In this case, fair enough.
Marjorie, a bit puzzled :)
Dnia 2 Lutego 2013, 2:38 pm, So, Marjorie Burghart napisał(a):
On 2 February 2013 02:58, Dot Porter dot.porter@gmail.com wrote:
"Neither the text nor the images may be reproduced, in any form, without the authorisation of the Vatican Library, 00120, Vatican City. "
Is this from the BAV website? I haven't noticed that... If it means the BAV think they hold a copyright on the *TEXT* in the manuscript, that's totaly unheard of - and absurd! :s
Not totally unheard...
To be more precise, you are correct that claiming the copyright would be absurd, but the owner of the property has the right to restrict its use any way he wishes.
It's pity that the right is often overused in digital libraries. Recently in Poland the access to almost 3 milions of scanned paper slips of the Late Middle Polish dictionary (work in progress), which was free for months, has been retracted without any explanation or justification...
Best regards
Janusz
Hi,
regarding Vatican's copyright statement, I think that there are some things that can be built, or prototyped -- e. g. a text linking to a page of a MS like they did in <monumenta.ch> -- that do not infringe Vatican Library's copyright. Such projects, surely, risk that the link will vanish overnight -- but the site does offer us (in German, I guess) "Persistente URL" for its images.
And I guess that it would depend what we ask the authorisation for. A scholarly undertaking, such as publishing an on-line edition which uses BAV's images, should be acceptable, and they should actually be glad that somebody wants to do this. Otherwise, why spend so much money for digitisation?
Best,
Neven Jovanovic Zagreb, Croatia
On 2 February 2013 02:58, Dot Porter dot.porter@gmail.com wrote:
"Neither the text nor the images may be reproduced, in any form, without the authorisation of the Vatican Library, 00120, Vatican City. "
Is this from the BAV website? I haven't noticed that... If it means the BAV think they hold a copyright on the *TEXT* in the manuscript, that's totaly unheard of - and absurd! :s Or does "text" refer to the manuscript descriptions? In this case, fair enough.
Marjorie, a bit puzzled :) Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/journal/ Journal Editors: editors _AT_ digitalmedievalist.org News: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/news/ Wiki: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/wiki/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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