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hi digital medievalists!
I have lurked on your site for many years with pleasure.
Now I have had a chat with a friend who is doing a translation of a Merovingian saint's life and who wonders if there is any such thing in existence as a digital Biblical concordance. This would allow the user to compare their electronic text of interest with the text of the Vulgate (or vetus Latina.. why not) and have returned a list of words in their text which are in the Latin Bible, or CONVERSELY which are NOT in the Latin Bible.
It seems that such a useful tool should already exist and I thought I might ask you all if you know of this being in existence or of an expert to consult with.
THANK you in advance for any help you might be able to give me! Karen Corsano It seems to me that such a useful tool
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Dear Karen,
There is an online Vulgate, the Sesto-Clementine version at http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/
The Christian section of the Bible follows the Vetus Latina in a number of respects, since it was widely available before Jerome translated the Jewish section, so that should not be an insurmountable problem for simple searches.
Blessings,
Kevin Roddy Medieval Studies University of California, Davis
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 1:34 PM Karen Corsano <karenanncorsano@gmail.commailto:karenanncorsano@gmail.com> wrote: Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
hi digital medievalists!
I have lurked on your site for many years with pleasure.
Now I have had a chat with a friend who is doing a translation of a Merovingian saint's life and who wonders if there is any such thing in existence as a digital Biblical concordance. This would allow the user to compare their electronic text of interest with the text of the Vulgate (or vetus Latina.. why not) and have returned a list of words in their text which are in the Latin Bible, or CONVERSELY which are NOT in the Latin Bible.
It seems that such a useful tool should already exist and I thought I might ask you all if you know of this being in existence or of an expert to consult with.
THANK you in advance for any help you might be able to give me! Karen Corsano It seems to me that such a useful tool Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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Dear Karen, dear all,
as for a lemmatised word list and a concordance stricto sensu, Dutripon's concordance may still be convenient - as it is lemmatised and digitized (8th edition, 1880: https://books.google.fr/books?id=9fbZNP1p_P4C; higher resolution, but 1st ed. 1838 at https://archive.org/details/concordantiaebib00dutr/).
However, I would now recommend using the wonderful digital scholarly edition of the Bible and glossa ordinaria and several other systematic commentaries, published by my colleague and friend Martin Morard at the following url: https://gloss-e.irht.cnrs.fr:
It contains:
- the full text of the Latin bible of the late Middle age, based on a revised version of the 1481 edition, corrected with hitherto unpublished material, and linked to additional editions (some still being in progress):
- the glossa ordinaria (as published in Strasbourg in 1481, covering 2415 pages)
- the Glossa media in Psalmos et epistolas Pauli by Gilbertus Porreta (Gilbert de la Porrée, c. 1120-1140)
- the Glossa magno in Psalmos et epistolas Pauli by Petrus Lombardus (1160)
- Postillae super totam bibliam of Hugo of Sancto Charo (c. 1230-1240)
- Catena aurea super quattuor Evangelia of Thomas Aquinas (1262-1272)
The whole is supplemented by a repertory of 11500 manuscript parts (ca. 6000 different shelfmarks) containing parts of the glossed bible.
Therefore, if one wishes to know if a word is in the text of the Latin bible as it was read in the middle ages or if it has been used in connection with the bible or in which branch of the stemma, this is most probably the place to start.
Best regards,
Dominique Stutzmann
Le 13/09/2022 à 01:05, Kevin Roddy a écrit : Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
Dear Karen,
There is an online Vulgate, the Sesto-Clementine version at http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/
The Christian section of the Bible follows the Vetus Latina in a number of respects, since it was widely available before Jerome translated the Jewish section, so that should not be an insurmountable problem for simple searches.
Blessings,
Kevin Roddy Medieval Studies University of California, Davis
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 1:34 PM Karen Corsano <karenanncorsano@gmail.commailto:karenanncorsano@gmail.com> wrote: Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
hi digital medievalists!
I have lurked on your site for many years with pleasure.
Now I have had a chat with a friend who is doing a translation of a Merovingian saint's life and who wonders if there is any such thing in existence as a digital Biblical concordance. This would allow the user to compare their electronic text of interest with the text of the Vulgate (or vetus Latina.. why not) and have returned a list of words in their text which are in the Latin Bible, or CONVERSELY which are NOT in the Latin Bible.
It seems that such a useful tool should already exist and I thought I might ask you all if you know of this being in existence or of an expert to consult with.
THANK you in advance for any help you might be able to give me! Karen Corsano It seems to me that such a useful tool Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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-- Dr. Dominique Stutzmann Directeur de recherche (CNRS) Responsable de la section de Paléographie latine, IRHT-CNRS Moteur de recherche plein texte dans les registres du Trésor des Chartes (1302-1483) : HIMANIShttp://himanis.huma-num.fr/himanis/ Base de données des œuvres latines à succès : FAMA Fama Auctorum Medii Aevihttp://fama.irht.cnrs.fr/ Manuscrits et inventaires de la bibliothèque de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertinhttps://saint-bertin.irht.cnrs.fr/ Ressources pour l'analyse d'images des manuscrits médiévaux par ordinateur : Classification of Medieval Handwritings in Latin Scripthttps://clamm.irht.cnrs.fr/
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Dear Dominique and Kevin, Thank you for this very useful note! I will pass this info onto my friend who may want to get back to you! All the best, Karen Corsano
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 5:31 PM Dominique Stutzmann <dominique.stutzmann@irht.cnrs.frmailto:dominique.stutzmann@irht.cnrs.fr> wrote: Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
Dear Karen, dear all,
as for a lemmatised word list and a concordance stricto sensu, Dutripon's concordance may still be convenient - as it is lemmatised and digitized (8th edition, 1880: https://books.google.fr/books?id=9fbZNP1p_P4C; higher resolution, but 1st ed. 1838 at https://archive.org/details/concordantiaebib00dutr/).
However, I would now recommend using the wonderful digital scholarly edition of the Bible and glossa ordinaria and several other systematic commentaries, published by my colleague and friend Martin Morard at the following url: https://gloss-e.irht.cnrs.fr:
It contains:
- the full text of the Latin bible of the late Middle age, based on a revised version of the 1481 edition, corrected with hitherto unpublished material, and linked to additional editions (some still being in progress):
- the glossa ordinaria (as published in Strasbourg in 1481, covering 2415 pages)
- the Glossa media in Psalmos et epistolas Pauli by Gilbertus Porreta (Gilbert de la Porrée, c. 1120-1140)
- the Glossa magno in Psalmos et epistolas Pauli by Petrus Lombardus (1160)
- Postillae super totam bibliam of Hugo of Sancto Charo (c. 1230-1240)
- Catena aurea super quattuor Evangelia of Thomas Aquinas (1262-1272)
The whole is supplemented by a repertory of 11500 manuscript parts (ca. 6000 different shelfmarks) containing parts of the glossed bible.
Therefore, if one wishes to know if a word is in the text of the Latin bible as it was read in the middle ages or if it has been used in connection with the bible or in which branch of the stemma, this is most probably the place to start.
Best regards,
Dominique Stutzmann
Le 13/09/2022 à 01:05, Kevin Roddy a écrit : Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
Dear Karen,
There is an online Vulgate, the Sesto-Clementine version at http://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/
The Christian section of the Bible follows the Vetus Latina in a number of respects, since it was widely available before Jerome translated the Jewish section, so that should not be an insurmountable problem for simple searches.
Blessings,
Kevin Roddy Medieval Studies University of California, Davis
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 1:34 PM Karen Corsano <karenanncorsano@gmail.commailto:karenanncorsano@gmail.com> wrote: Caution: This email was sent from someone outside of the University of Lethbridge. Do not click on links or open attachments unless you know they are safe. Suspicious emails should be forwarded to phishing@uleth.camailto:phishing@uleth.ca.
hi digital medievalists!
I have lurked on your site for many years with pleasure.
Now I have had a chat with a friend who is doing a translation of a Merovingian saint's life and who wonders if there is any such thing in existence as a digital Biblical concordance. This would allow the user to compare their electronic text of interest with the text of the Vulgate (or vetus Latina.. why not) and have returned a list of words in their text which are in the Latin Bible, or CONVERSELY which are NOT in the Latin Bible.
It seems that such a useful tool should already exist and I thought I might ask you all if you know of this being in existence or of an expert to consult with.
THANK you in advance for any help you might be able to give me! Karen Corsano It seems to me that such a useful tool Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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-- Dr. Dominique Stutzmann Directeur de recherche (CNRS) Responsable de la section de Paléographie latine, IRHT-CNRS Moteur de recherche plein texte dans les registres du Trésor des Chartes (1302-1483) : HIMANIShttp://himanis.huma-num.fr/himanis/ Base de données des œuvres latines à succès : FAMA Fama Auctorum Medii Aevihttp://fama.irht.cnrs.fr/ Manuscrits et inventaires de la bibliothèque de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertinhttps://saint-bertin.irht.cnrs.fr/ Ressources pour l'analyse d'images des manuscrits médiévaux par ordinateur : Classification of Medieval Handwritings in Latin Scripthttps://clamm.irht.cnrs.fr/ Digital Medievalist -- http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/ Journal Editors: https://journal.digitalmedievalist.org/contact/ News: https://digitalmedievalist.wordpress.com/news/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/digitalmedieval Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=49320313760 Discussion list: dm-l@uleth.camailto:dm-l@uleth.ca Change list options: http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l
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