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Re: [dm-l] Re: Exeter Book CD: for free?
by Barbara Bordalejo 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

I am sorry to have to say this, but why do people assume that because a book is in electronic format it should be free? I find it very strange than even those familiar with the work that goes into electronic publications would suggest that it should be free of charge. The site about Open Access referred to by Klaus is clearly intended for journals and similar publications, not for works as the Exeter CD. Indeed, I cannot imagine approaching Andy Orchard, for example, and saying, "I always wanted to buy _Pride and Prodigies_, but it is too expensive, could I have it for free?" This is the kind of publication we are talking about, not articles in journals; but incredibly complex publications that, more often than not, require the cooperation of a team of people. Those who think that publishing on the internet is free should take into account costs such as maintenance and upgrading. Someone has to care for the texts on the internet for these to remain available. In some cases, without university support, a private individual will even have to pay for the space on the internet. Of course we all want more access to primary materials and libraries are doing a good job digitizing their books, making them available and maintaining the sites. We should be happy that we can count on this and stop trying to get everything for free. Best, Barbara Bordalejo ----- Original Message ----- From: Klaus Graf <klaus.graf(a)geschichte.uni-freiburg.de> Date: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:20 pm Subject: [dm-l] Re: Exeter Book CD > Digital Medievalist Journal (Inaugural Issue Fall 2004). Call for > papers: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/cfp.htm > ---------------- > In my opinion an Open Acess web page with the digitized > Exter book in reasonable quality would be better than any > CD. > > Klaus Graf > -- > PS: What is Open Access: > http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Project web site: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ > dm-l mailing list > dm-l(a)uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l >

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Re: [dm-l] Re: Exeter Book CD: for free?
by James Cummings 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Peter Baker wrote: > Digital Medievalist Journal (Inaugural Issue Fall 2004). Call for papers: > http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/cfp.htm > ---------------- > Thanks for this clarification, Elizabeth. I was very excited to find the Bod's > images site just as I was preparing to teach Exodus to my grad. seminar last > spring. What the Bod is doing here seems a good solution: the images are > available for free; you can get an accurate text of the Junius poems free too. > But the CD adds value for those willing and able to pony up the (perfectly > reasonable) �50. > > Well, it adds value for most. Not for me, since I run Linux. Not for the large > numbers of medievalists who run Mac OS X. I think it a really dreadful mistake > to use MS's extensions to JavaScript, forcing people to use The Worst Browser > Now Available. On the other hand, the Dictionary of Old English made the same > mistake, so at least you're in good company. Just a note that the Toronto Dictionary of Old English Complete Corpus is available for free from the Oxford Text Archive. As is the York-Toronto-Helsinki parsed corpus of Old English prose. (You must complete a form for these resources though.). -James > > Peter > > Elizabeth Solopova wrote: > > > Digital Medievalist Journal (Inaugural Issue Fall 2004). Call for papers: > > http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/cfp.htm > > ---------------- > > Dear All, > > > > The Junius 11 CD-ROM (Bodleian Digital Texts 1) was published by the > > Bodleian rather than OUP. The Bodleian supported the project financially > > (the development of software), provided the images and contributed to the > > development of the interface. All the technical and academic work was done > > by Burnard Muir and his team. The images published on the CD were already > > available when the work on the project started six years ago: they are still > > available free of charge for personal use by researchers via Early > > Manuscripts at Oxford University (http://image.ox.ac.uk/). The next project > > in the series will be MS. Auct. F. 2.13 (Terence's Comedies). The images are > > also available via the Early Manuscripts at Oxford University site. The > > CD-ROM works only with Internet Explorer because Microsoft's implementation > > of JavaScript was used (you may have noticed the use of JavaScript in the > > extract posted by Martin). As far as I know Burnard Muir's team will try to > > overcome this limitation in the next CD-ROM. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > Dr. Elizabeth Solopova > > Department of Special Collections and Western Manuscripts > > Bodleian Library > > Broad Street > > Oxford OX1 3BG > > Tel.: +44 (0)1865-277073 > > E-mail: es(a)bodley.ox.ac.uk > > Internet: http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/ > > http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Project web site: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ > > dm-l mailing list > > dm-l(a)uleth.ca > > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Project web site: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ > dm-l mailing list > dm-l(a)uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l > > --- Dr James Cummings, Oxford Text Archive, University of Oxford James dot Cummings at oucs dot ox dot ac dot uk

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resource of interest
by Paula Mae Carns 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

Kathleen, This note about Old English text might interest you. The OTA is lsited on the English page of the Medieval Studies site. Hope you're having fun wherever you are! Paula ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:25:53 +0200 >From: Roberto Rosselli Del Turco <rosselli(a)ling.unipi.it> >Subject: Re: [dm-l] Re: Exeter Book CD: for free? >To: James.Cummings(a)computing-services.oxford.ac.uk, Digital Medievalist Community mailing list <dm-l(a)uleth.ca> > >Digital Medievalist Journal (Inaugural Issue Fall 2004). Call for papers: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/cfp.htm >---------------- >Il mar, 2004-07-20 alle 15:55, James Cummings ha scritto: >> >> Just a note that the Toronto Dictionary of Old English Complete Corpus >> is available for free from the Oxford Text Archive. As is the >> York-Toronto-Helsinki parsed corpus of Old English prose. (You must complete >> a form for these resources though.). > >Nice! URL of the form(s) to complete? > >Ciao > >-- > >Roberto Rosselli Del Turco roberto.rossellidelturco at unito.it >Dipartimento di Scienze rosselli at ling.unipi.it >del Linguaggio Then spoke the thunder DA >Universita' di Torino Datta: what have we given? (TSE) > > Hige sceal the heardra, heorte the cenre, > mod sceal the mare, the ure maegen litlath. (Maldon 312-3) > > > >_______________________________________________ >Project web site: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/ >dm-l mailing list >dm-l(a)uleth.ca >http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Paula Mae Carns, M.S., Ph.D. Spanish, Italian & Portuguese Languages and Literatures Specialist and Assistant Professor of Library Administration Modern Languages and Linguistics Library University of Illinois Library Room 425 1408 W. Gregory Drive Urbana, IL 61801 (MC-522) Phone: 217-244-0483 Fax: 217-333-2214 Email: pcarns(a)uiuc.edu

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Re: Exeter Book CD
by Klaus Graf 20 Jul '04

20 Jul '04

In my opinion an Open Acess web page with the digitized Exter book in reasonable quality would be better than any CD. Klaus Graf -- PS: What is Open Access: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm

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by Lucien.reynhout 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

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Open Access to Heritage Collections
by Klaus Graf 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

"Nor need OA even be limited to literature. It can apply to any digital content, from raw data to learning objects, music, images, and software. It can apply to works that are born digital or to older works, like public-domain literature and cultural-heritage objects, digitized later in life." (From Peter Suber's Open Access Overview) http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/overview.htm Making the content of heritage collections free available in the world wide web is the best way to support scholarly research. Libraries and archives should allow Open Access editions of works in their property. Seeing this property as a cultural property there is no place for permission barriers concerning reproductions. On the taxpayer argument for OA see: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/09-04-03.htm May be you are able without knowing German to understand the dramatic developments for university libraries resulting from the journal price crisis the Regensburg university library has shown with statistical graphs at http://www.bibliothek.uni-regensburg.de/allgem/krise/krise.htm Purchasing monographs in the humanities has been influenced by the increasing STM journal prices. Klaus Graf

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Call for Papers (deadline extended) - Ancient Studies, New Technology III (Dec 3-5 2004)
by Michael L. Norton 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

The third biennial conference on the topic of "Ancient Studies -- New Technology: The World Wide Web and Scholarly Research, Communication, and Publication in Ancient, Byzantine, and Medieval Studies" will be held December 3-5, 2004, at James Madison University, Harrisonburg, VA. Topics of particular interest include: the digital museum; the digital classroom; the digital scholar; and theoretical issues such as "knowledge representation" Three hundred word electronic abstracts dealing with these issues and with other ways in which the WEB can help to promote classical, ancient, Byzantine, and medieval studies may be directed to Ralph Mathisen, Program Chair, at: ralphwm(a)uiuc.edu Snail Mail : Department of History, 309 Gregory Hall, University of Illinois, Urbana, IL 61801. Deadline for receipt of abstracts is August 31, 2004 Conference web site: http://www.cisat.jmu.edu/asnt3 /**************************************** * Michael L. Norton, Ph.D. * Computer Science Dept. * ISAT/CS #209 * MSC 4103 * James Madison University * Harrisonburg, VA 22807 * (540_568-2777 * nortonml(a)jmu.edu ***************************************/

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CFP: Making the Old New Again, (1 Sept 2004; Kalamazoo, 5 May 2005 - 8 May 2005)
by James Cummings 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

[Apologies for cross-posting] Call For Papers: Making the Old New Again: Digital Medievalism in an Ever-Changing World The Oxford Text Archive, University of Oxford, invites abstracts for 20 minute papers to be delivered in the above sponsored session at the 40th International Congress on Medieval Studies at Western Michigan University (May 5-8, 2005). Session Abstract: This session aims to bring together medievalists working with digital projects to discuss their experiences with the every-changing and evolving nature of these resources. As increasingly more electronic research tools are created and computing technology changes, making the old resources accessible in new contexts is often extremely challenging. What do you do when your campus upgrades to a new operating system and your 'Teach Yourself Old English' software no longer functions? How do you convert electronic manuscript editions from a couple decades ago into a format so they will work with new software? Other related issues which could be included in the session include: the repurposing of older material to enable comparability in new resources, the transformation of legacy data into standards-compliant formats, the introduction of out-dated material into new online publishing frameworks, and the special challenges faced by medieval resource creation. It is hoped that this session will attract those with both negative and positive experience of data migration and resource creation, and allow them to share their experience to help medievalists work towards common goals of preservation of the digital medieval resources we already have and best practice in future resource creation. Please send abstracts (max. 500 words) for proposed papers with an even shorter summary c.v. to: James.Cummings(a)oucs.ox.ac.uk before 1 September 2004. Make sure to include complete contact information and AV requirements, and note that accepted participants must commit themselves to attend. For more information concerning this conference please see: http://www.wmich.edu/medieval/congress/ Please feel free to circulate this call for papers to anyone you think might be interested. -James --- Dr James Cummings, Oxford Text Archive, University of Oxford James dot Cummings at ota dot ahds dot ac dot uk

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What would people like to see in a primer and/or series of primers?
by Daniel O'Donnell 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

I've had a couple of off line responses to my question about a primer. This might be a good opportunity for participants at all levels of expertise to mention the types of thing they wish they knew (had known) in starting or completing various projects. It is important in a community like this that members not feel intimidated about raising simple questions or problems as well as complex or advanced. Don't be afraid to say what you think for the list as a whole! Cheers. -dan -- Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD Associate Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Tel. (403) 329-2377 Fax. (403) 382-7191 E-mail <daniel.odonnell(a)uleth.ca> Home Page <http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell/>

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Re: [dm-l] Exeter Book CD
by Patrick Conner 16 Jul '04

16 Jul '04

Thanks for the note. So EB is no longer being published by Exeter UP? --pat >>> foys(a)hermes.hood.edu - 7/15/04 2:31 AM >>> Pat - Alas, I had to leave Leeds already to get back to the NEH seminar in Cambridge. I did speak to Samuel Fanous at the Bodleian table; he said that Exeter is next, and soon, and will be using the same architecture as Junius 11, only with more apparatus. For now, see some pretty pictures of it at http://www.evellum.com/exeter/ ~ Martin On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:48:47 -0400 "Patrick Conner" <pconner(a)wvu.edu> wrote: > I think Bernard Muir is in fact at Leeds. Dig him out Martin, and > get > the scoop about why we're all still waiting for the Exeter Book, > please. > There's something pretty for you, if you do (as me ol' grandmither > used > to say). > > --pat > > > Patrick W. Conner, Director > West Virginia University Press > P.O. Box 6295, West Virginia Univ. > Morgantown, WV 26506-6295 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Voice: 304.293.8400 x4505 > Fax: 304.293.5380 > Email: pconner(a)wvu.edu > Web page: www.wvupress.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martin K. Foys Assistant Professor Department of English Hood College Frederick, MD 21701 vox: 301~696~3740 fax: 301~696~3586 ether: foys(a)hood.edu Bayeux Tapestry Digital Edition, Choice 2004 Outstanding Academic Title: http://www.boydell.co.uk/choice.htm _______________________________________________ dm-l mailing list dm-l(a)uleth.ca http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/dm-l Project web site: http://www.digitalmedievalist.org/

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