Marin,
Merci! C'est aussi un bon point. Le plan était certainement pour cette année (2014) pour traduire l'appel à candidatures et l'appel à voter en plusieurs langues (et de vous approcher pour l'aide!). Mais puisque vous savez que mon français est terrible alors...
Thanks! Also a good point. The plan was definitely for this year to translate the call for nominations and call to vote into multiple languages (and will approach you guys to help!). I should probably target Mandarin, Spanish, Hindi, and Arabic if possible. (According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) but I suppose that depends on volunteers. I understand the difficulty of describing something by use of negation of the category you are starting from - very difficult not to. In the case of 'non-fiction', for example, this sometimes encompasses some material I wouldn't, in English, describe as 'factual'. I will try to endeavour to stress the positive 'any language' aspect even more going forward.
Many thanks, -James
On 09/02/14 14:20, Marin Dacos wrote:
To my mind, the best way to open DH Awards to non English contents, without creating a ghetto with a specific entry, is to translate the call and the categories in 4-5 languages. By principle, I refuse to use any negative denominations like "non English". I am always disturbed by the "non-fiction" category, in English, which is very weak and negative. Best regards, Marin
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Alex and Ernesto, Thanks! That was my precisely my thought (especially that it would relate 'Other' with 'Non-English' which seemed a really really dangerous idea). I'll thank the person for the idea but explain how it may be construed as even more divisive and problematic. Thanks for your thoughts! -James On 07/02/14 13:09, Ernesto Priego wrote: Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto. Best regards, e * * * Dr Ernesto Priego *Lecturer in Library Science Acting Course Director, MSc/MA Electronic Publishing, City University London * * City University London offers a wide range of postgraduate courses delivered by world-leading academics. Register for our Open Evening <http://www.city.ac.uk/events/__2014/feb/postgraduate-open-__evening <http://www.city.ac.uk/events/2014/feb/postgraduate-open-evening>> on Wednesday 19^th February to find out more. 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James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Orientalism_(book) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)>>. I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it. Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English. Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will. Your great admirer, Alex. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.__ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>>> wrote: Hi GO::DH, Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards. As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters). The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges. 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