Sorry, Ernesto, I was just making a (sort of) joke about Yasmin's comment that as Cuban, she's used to a society that is muy vigilante.
On 14-02-05 02:15 AM, Ernesto Priego wrote:
Snowden keeps being mentioned in relation to this, but the comparison is like apples and oranges. As a researcher I cannot but comment that there are degrees of access and surveilance. What the Snowden affair revealed is that the NSA had access to was emails' and mobile communcations' *metadata* (who emails when where and how to whom where when) not its contents (the WHAT). When we talk about citing emails we talk about citing the content of emails, not just their metadata.
So yes, taken to the ultimate circumstances we are all being watched by everyone and anything can happen. That does not mean we cannot have standards and documentation that clearly state how we are doing things and what people can expect. Same goes for research ethics: the world is mostly a place where ethics are not respected. This does not mean we cannot try to establish some open, respectful, transparent framework for interaction. Everyone can potentially engage in online piracy, but this does not mean that using open licenses is useless or naive.
And now I'll keep my mouth shut about this whole thing!
Cheers!
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On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:
On 14-02-04 04:41 PM, Yasmín S. Portales Machado wrote:Yo voto por eso: “Aheader that said something like: "Globaloutlookdh-l is a publicly archived listserv. Contributions are distributed under a CC-BY licence." We could then link to a page about licensing that had the same information and a bit more detail in English and a few of the more widely used other languages. A header like that would presumably clarify things with regard to what I was calling primary use (i.e. quotation and citation that engages with the content). Aunque aclaro que siempre asumí que lo que escribimos acá es público para ser citado, etc. Debe ser por mi experiencia de crecer en un estado “muy vigilante”, en el que todo lo que se dice, incluso en espacios cerrados, será informado, archivado y citado para valorar el desempaño, tarde o temprano.Actually that was really also my understanding too. I like that "muy vigilante" as a description. 'Course, with the NSA and other revelations here in Canada from Edward Snowden, it turns out to be true everywhere to some extent (the latest revelation in Canada is that they've been recording cellphones of every passenger as they pass through at least one of the Canadian airports).Yasmín S. Portales Machado -------------------------------------- Marxista, Feminista y Bloguera Twitter: @nimlothdecuba Facebook http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=663817529 Mi blog: http://yasminsilvia.blogspot.com/ Parte de Proyecto Arcoiris Colectivo LGBT, anticapitalista e independiente, de Cuba http://proyectoarcoiris.cubava.cu/ Parte de Observatorio Crítico de Cuba ¡A la izquierda, pero por la izquierda! http://observatoriocriticodesdecuba.wordpress.com/ "El feminismo ha puesto en evidencia, mejor que ninguna otra corriente de pensamiento, tanto la arbitrariedad del psicoanálisis como la insuficiencia del marxismo, es decir, ha cuestionado los dos grandes modelos totalizadores del siglo XX." Carlo Frabetti-- --- Daniel Paul O'Donnell Professor of English University of Lethbridge Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 Canada +1 403 393-2539 <tel:%2B1%20403%20393-2539> _______________________________________________ globaloutlookdh-l mailing list globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca <mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted. If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours.