The experience we are having with the RedHD (Red de Humanidades Digitales) is that there ARE people who are working on DH projects, usually not calling themselves digital humanists at all. However, the problem is not that they don't call themselves digital humanists. The problem is the enormous difficulties we have encountered to actually find the few people that we have managed to find. It seems to be based on chance, luck and fortuitous conversations. Why is is that projects in English are more visible than other ones? Because the DH network is primarily for and by English speaking colleagues? I don't know. What I do think is that although we have managed to find DH projects in Spanish these people are not connected between themselves. It seems to be that the communication channels are not properly established, or if they exist we haven't been able to tap into them. I for one think that they do not exist and this is what we have to focus on (one of the great things about this list, for example). These communication channels can allow us to find and connect and then yes, hopefully collaborate in the language most favourable. Best, Isabel
-------- Dra. Isabel Galina Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) igalina@unam.mx
________________________________ De: globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] en nombre de Alex Gil [colibri.alex@gmail.com] Enviado: lunes, 29 de abril de 2013 03:37 p.m. Para: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] A revolution yet to happen
Bonjour Frédéric,
Judging from individual conversations I've had while helping build our small global network, I can hazard that your feeling is shared by most of us here at GO::DH. One of the explicit goals of GO::DH is precisely to make the work done in other languages and areas of the world visiblehttp://www.globaloutlookdh.org/around-dh-in-80-days/ to the English dominant, but I would remind us that the vice versa is as equally important. I understand Craig's comments about DH ≠ the world, to mean that DH may very well be practiced by another name and another flavor in many parts of the world today. These conversations remind me of the early years of the Cominternhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comintern, when they set out to take the gospel of Marxism to "the third world," and came back to Moscow with the realization that Marxism was already out there, the world just didn't call it that! In short, nothing can happen until we have a large network founded on mutual recognition.
We have much work to do in the francophone world, and we hope that means not just France or projects IN France about the francophone world. I myself have been focusing on the hispanophone worldhttp://www.humanidadesdigitales.net/, and I can tell you we have many challenges building networks there. Yes, we are using the problematic brand of DH as the banner to unite, perhaps because networks need common brands (as far as I can see), but also because we can envision a truly global annual conference and a community of practitioners and theorists of the digital arts. While we develop robust traditions in these languages, we can't expect the English "center" to always pay attention, but that doesn't trouble me much as long as we get enough attention to tap into the desire for collaboration that Craig signals.
I myself couldn't care much for what Bethany Nowviskie calls the "typical markers of academic prestigehttp://chronicle.com/article/Devising-New-Roles-for/138809/." I do know that many of you are worried about those, and I sympathize, but I encourage you to seize the much more present task of building "literatures" in our languages and discuss our different relationships to technology writ-large. In the end we are challenged (sometimes blessed) by the status of English as lingua franca (once French, Latin, Arabic, Chinese, etc) and its role as the code-base from which our digital systems borrow their cultural assumptions, but this should be no insurmountable obstacle to building language-specific traditions and communities.
As David suggests, GO::DH could also be that place where we carefully grate our regional and cultural assumptions about technology against the grain of different environments in order to refine those assumptions. In my view, these slightly unharmonious encounters will be precisely what we need in order to shed more clarity on the relationship between scholarship and technology in a global context (if such a thing is possible).
Count on me for the beers too!
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Frédéric Clavert <frederic@clavert.netmailto:frederic@clavert.net> wrote: Dear all,
I'm new to the list - I knew I should have been member of it for a while - and my first message will be an answer to an answer to a post of mine.
Yes, my quantitative examples are flimsy. But my post is not based on them. It's just an illustration to a feeling which is: there are many non-english speaking DH projects that are somewhere on a hidden continent, because they're not in English. And it would be great to bring them a bit of light.
As for as action is concerned, I already participated to several THATCamp Organisation committees (Paris (twice), Florence, Luxembourg-Trier) and organised two conferences on history and the digital era in Luxembourg (and the third is on its way). I also have to deal with a team of enginers, documentalists and one historian (myself) that work on the present and future of a multilingual digital library (http://www.cvce.eu).
Beyond that, I never refuse a beer.
best, Frédéric
2013/4/28 Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com>:
Let us begin it. Que comience!
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Craig Bellamy <txt@craigbellamy.netmailto:txt@craigbellamy.net> wrote:
Dear GO
I find the post curious Domenico, but the DH is just a small part of the world, it isn't the world. The post is reductive and build on some monumental and flimsy quantitative generalisations. What's wrong with down-loading a text, marking it up, playing around with it and posting it for others to have a look at?. There is no action in the post and the ideas in it could be broken down into a few blocks of quality time where some excellent work could be produced. The DH is about technology and if there are barriers to applying technology in all sorts of social or cultural contents then there are some really nice people who could be asked for assistance.
If Frederic is ever in Melbourne I'll take him out for a beer.
Kind regards,
Craig
On 27/04/2013 11:04 PM, Domenico Fiormonte wrote:
I guess people on this list would be interested in reading this post by Frédéric Clavert:
http://www.clavert.net/the-digital-humanities-multicultural-revolution-did-n...
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