I agree. I think the "GO::DH way" is to not sweat who does what but to emphasise simply that things should be covered however that is done.
I'd certainly be willing to think through refereeing protocols to see if there is a light-footprint way of refereeing. For example, we could do a straight refereeing by a single editor on author-submitted manuscripts. Not quite a full referee, but better than simply reprinting a solicited review.
Another option that worked very well at the TEI and DM was to create a couple of positions: e.g. Rapporteur for Asia, for example. Or even "Bibliography and Conference Review editor for Asia" that could be used on CVs.
On 14-05-29 06:21 AM, Øyvind Eide wrote:
Thank you all for the input.
Many good approaches has been tested -- I suppose we just have to continue trying. There is no fixed rules of the game, sometimes reporting from an area as an outsider is necessary and good, other times it should be the voice of locals we listen to.
And for limited resources -- of course other people's priorities may look strange some times. But people are different -- and not only because of cultural differences.
All the best,
Øyvind
On 29. mai 2014, at 07:56, Ernesto Priego wrote:
Hi all,
Dan writes
But it might be possible, for example, to begin commissioning conference reports where >maybe a grad student or somebody else reports on papers that caught their eye.
I think this would be very cool. It's what we tried to do at 4Humanities with the idea of 'international correspondents' http://4humanities.org/who-we-are/. It's something that I've been trying to do for my journal's blog (for example with this call: http://blog.comicsgrid.com/2014/04/comics-unmasked-call-exhibition-reviews-e...).
In practice, my experience as both a correspondent and an editor is that it's very difficult to ensure a sustained effort unless one figures out some kind of mechanism in which a) authors feel rewarded for their work and b) authors are motivated in the first place to do it.
Recently I've come to see myself as a "beggar of content". I've found that some are keen to complain some events/countries/people/scenes don't get the coverage/recognition they deserve but won't try to do it themselves. I am aware this is due to different reasons. People will also always say they have no time to blog (but I find the 'lack of time' excuse interesting to say the least, as often there's time for other in my personal opinion less rewarding things).
Having said that, one of the reasons why I stopped blogging for Global Voices http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/ernesto-priego/ is because of the incredible amount of time it took to craft a post (because their guidelines are excellent but this means they need to be observed, and curating, linking to and analysing content from social media in more than one language is really labour-intensive), and because in the end it just felt like the project relies on the unpaid labour of hundreds of international volunteers around the world, who spend productive time in a project for which only a bunch of organisers in an Ivy league in the US get proper recognition. Contributing to GV is a worthy effort, and I believe it has become an incredible content 'repository' and 'engine', but I started wondering whose blood was the grease...
In short: the idea of international reports is fantastic and I fully support it. I just want to share my experience and give some warning that getting people to actually commit to a project that requires sustained effort voluntarily will always be tricky. Hope this is taken as constructive feedback; it's not my intention to be negative, quite the contrary.
All the best,
Ernesto
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote: I have to say, I really like the idea though of synopses of what's going on in different parts of the world.
One early idea we had, which we didn't really followup on because we weren't sure if it was maybe neo-colonial was to have rapporteurs from different countries write blogs or emails about things going on that caught their eye that not everybody would have access to for linguistic reasons.
It would simply be impossible to "cover" a country, region, or language (imagine trying to do that for English-language DH or even just "DH in England", so the idea wouldn't be to be comprehensive. But it might be possible, for example, to begin commissioning conference reports where maybe a grad student or somebody else reports on papers that caught their eye. I'd need to check with my co-editors, but I think this would be something that would certainly be appropriate for publication in Digital Studies, which is interested in going this way anyway.
The way of avoiding being neo-colonial might be to ensure we ask for reviews, discussions, etc. of all types of conferences (e.g. DH and CSDH/SCHN as well as RedHD or the recent meeting in San Paolo) and really encourage a number and diversity of reviews.
My preference would be to somehow think of a way of refereeing these contributions, but if there was any kind of volume, I\m not sure how we could handle the workflow.
On 14-05-28 07:46 AM, igalina wrote:
Hi Øyvind,
If it is bibliography you are after I recommend the Humanidades Digitales Zotero group, started by Antonio Rojas, which has DH related bibliography in Spanish: https://www.zotero.org/groups/humanidades_digitales
As for the list of people it does seem tricky. However, in a way I think that this discussion list has become a great place to ask for and get replies related to DH topics from a very diverse group of people that are located in different countries.
Best,
Isabel
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:50 AM, ANTONIO ROJAS CASTRO rojas.castro.antonio@gmail.com wrote: Hi there
You can follow the hashtag #HumanidadesDigitales on Twitter - we are having great conversations these days: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HumanidadesDigitales&src=typd
Personally I recommend Elena González-Blanco and Nuria Rodríguez's works on DH in Spain.
If you are looking for a scholar based in the UK that could give a good overview I believe Paul Spence is your man.
All the best
2014-05-28 10:18 GMT+02:00 Øyvind Eide oyvind.eide@iln.uio.no:
Dear all,
Could I ask the participants of this list for some help?
As reader of mainly Northern European languages I have an overview of some of the DH world, but not all of it. I lack an oversight over what is published in other languages than English, German and the Scandinavian ones. Because of this I also lack knowledge of people publishing (mainly or exclusively) in languages such as Spanish, French, Cantonese, Japanese, and all the others.
Thus, I would like to ask you all for names of people who would be able to give a broad overview over the field of DH seen from another perspective than Western Europe or North America. Self posing is accepted of course.
In Norway, journalists have been given lists of female researchers organised by topic in order to avoid that the journalists always call the ones they already know, who used to be males mostly. Maybe we could think of something similar? A list of a number of DH topics and possible candidates to talk or write about it, covering as globally as possible? There are significant problems to be foreseen of course and it could lead to nasty situation -- but is it still doable?
Thanks,
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