Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to ADHO Change in Chair and Call for Recommendations on inter-cultural communication

-- Vika Zafrin Institutional Repository Librarian Boston University +1 617.358.6370 | http://open.bu.edu/ Øyvind Eide wrote: > I agree very strongly in these points, especially the last :-) > > It is a question if and how we can make the common ground something > different from the least common denominator — boring and flat, without > humour. I love irony but I know it parses badly if at all in some > parts of the world so maybe I must skip it in some setting. > > Øyvind > > 2. des. 2015 kl. 20:41 skrev Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com > mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com>: > >> I agree with Dan here. No one can truly represent communities of the >> magnitude we're discussing here without dealing in stereotypes. I >> would strongly urge us not to do such things. That doesn't leave us >> without recourse, though. Here are some thoughts: >> >> a) Mutually agreed upon terms of engagement for international >> collaboration. These are not lessons about each other, just the good >> old finding of common ground. >> b) Encouraging well-travelled, multi-lingual, cosmopolitan members to >> play diplomatic and translating roles. >> c) Listening to folks who do collaborative, deep research with >> academic communities outside their home base. This is not to be >> conflated with the antrhopological study of cultures, although there >> may be overlap. >> d) Building friendships with folks who live far away from you. My >> favorite :) >> >> All of that to say, that if we provide the right structures, the >> right environment for collaboration, *experience* will fill in the >> gaps to help us avoid making the type of /faux-pas/ you outline. >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Vika Zafrin <vzafrin@bu.edu >> mailto:vzafrin@bu.edu> wrote: >> >> Yeah, that's a real problem, and I'm pretty poorly equipped to >> deal with it. One problem with stereotypes is that they sometimes >> point to trends, and some of those trends are harmful, and some >> of the harmful ones bring us (ADHO) to our current state. So I >> can't dismiss stereotypes as a thing we can never use to a good end. >> >> Maybe an effort to help folks understand cultural academic >> differences doesn't have to be prescriptive. Not "try doing X to >> counteract trend Y," but "we've noticed these trends. Awareness >> of them might help us all move forward." This would have a >> greater chance of avoiding victim blaming. >> >> -Vika >> >> -- >> Vika Zafrin >> Institutional Repository Librarian >> Boston University >> +1 617.358.6370 tel:617.358.6370 | http://open.bu.edu/ >> >> >> O'Donnell, Dan wrote: >>> >>> I really think this would be a great idea, though the basic >>> problem is that it deals in stereotypes. We also need to watch >>> out that it doesn't become victim blaming--for example in the >>> way that the endless articles advising women to speak and behave >>> differently in order to succeed do. >>> >>> >>> But we all have a sense that some disciplines, academic >>> cultures, and languages, stereotypically at least value >>> different things: when I was TEI chair, I was well aware of the >>> different academic culture between the U.S. and the U.K., for >>> example (I used to joke that I was made TEI chair because I >>> could tell when the Americans were angry and the English >>> weren't). But I don't know how you could report that without >>> trading in stereotypes. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daniel Paul O'Donnell >>> >>> Professor of English >>> >>> University of Lethbridge >>> >>> 4401 University Drive West >>> >>> Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 >>> >>> Canada >>> >>> Tel. +1 (403) 329-2377 tel:%2B1%20%28403%29%20329-2377 >>> >>> >>> http://people.uleth.ca/~daniel.odonnell >>> http://people.uleth.ca/%7Edaniel.odonnell >>> >>> @danielPaulOD >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* globaloutlookdh-l globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca >>> mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca on behalf of Vika >>> Zafrin vzafrin@bu.edu mailto:vzafrin@bu.edu >>> *Sent:* December 2, 2015 10:44 >>> *To:* globaloutlookdh-l, MailList >>> *Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to ADHO >>> Change in Chair and Call for Recommendations on inter-cultural >>> communication >>> Alex Gil wrote: >>>> To Vika's question, can you clarify a bit more, Vika, what you >>>> mean? >>> I'm not sure about the full extent of what I mean. But somewhere >>> upthread someone mentioned aggressive vs supportive manners of >>> engaging with a presenter, a cultural difference of which I've >>> had a dim idea, but which I didn't consciously hold to be >>> something that would—unspoken—exclude people from participating >>> in an international discussion. It would be difficult to create >>> a sensitive yet effective resource documenting some >>> cross-cultural translation, but it may be worth the effort. >>> >>> I'm thinking of something like: >>> >>> - If you're from X, scholars from outside your culture may seem >>> meek and ineffectual to you. If that's true for you, consider >>> consciously making space for them in conversation. >>> - If you're from Y, engaging with scholars from outside your >>> culture may feel like a constant personal attack. If that's a >>> pattern that's true for you, it may not be conscious; you might >>> try to de-personalize it, or consider bringing it up to allies >>> as an issue. >>> >>> Or, further de-personalized: we've noticed some patterns, and >>> we're compiling them here because we think awareness of them >>> would be useful to moving the DH community toward true >>> globalization. Scholarly cultures in X region seem considerably >>> more aggressive in debate than they do in Y region. Etc. >>> >>> -Vika >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Daniel O'Donnell >>>> <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not that I'm aware of. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, 08:06 Vika Zafrin <vzafrin@bu.edu >>>> mailto:vzafrin@bu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Isabel and all, >>>> >>>> The latest few emails in this thread, and the deeply >>>> thought out response document for Karina and the SC, >>>> have led me to wonder whether it would be possible to >>>> compile a document explaining to scholars the >>>> differences in academic language among different >>>> communities, whether separated by language, >>>> nationality, world region, or other factors. I don't >>>> feel qualified to lead such an effort, though would >>>> certainly try to contribute to it. But it seems like >>>> maybe an appropriate project for GO::DH? >>>> >>>> Please forgive me if someone has already written about >>>> this. I've tried to keep up with the list, but have not >>>> been entirely successful, especially of late. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Vika >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Vika Zafrin >>>> Institutional Repository Librarian >>>> Boston University >>>> +1 617.358.6370 tel:617.358.6370 | http://open.bu.edu/ >>>> >>>> >>>> igalina wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Sara and All, >>>>> >>>>> I think Sara's comment about reviewers is both a >>>>> practical issue but also a fundamental reflection of >>>>> how deep or superficial the consequences of our >>>>> initiatives are. Indeed, although CfP in many >>>>> different languages looks and sounds good, and is most >>>>> definitely a step forward, with no reviewers the step >>>>> is tiny indeed. I also think that some of the >>>>> discussions regarding 'who is entitled to be a >>>>> reviewer' reflect more deep rooted prejudices - ie. >>>>> for example, to be a reviewer in English there are one >>>>> set of requirements and a proposal to be a reviewer in >>>>> other languages had different requirements, not only >>>>> language ones but some that seemed to be related to >>>>> the 'quality' and 'knowledge' of the reviewer. >>>>> >>>>> I would like to add to this discussion the issue of >>>>> the publications that ADHO sponsors. I think that some >>>>> discussions that are being had, again related to >>>>> language and quality of research, should not be among >>>>> a few, but rather open to a more public debate. What >>>>> do we expect from our publications as ADHO members? As >>>>> non-Anglo members (or English as a second language >>>>> members), how do the different ADHO journals respond >>>>> to our needs? Although some (not all) are in theory >>>>> multi-lingual, do they *really* have the >>>>> infrastructure to respond to multi-lingual needs? And >>>>> if they don't, how can we help to make this a real >>>>> possiblity? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Isabel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> Dra. Isabel Galina Russell >>>>> Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, >>>>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) >>>>> igalina@unam.mx mailto:igalina@unam.mx >>>>> @igalina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *De:* globaloutlookdh-l >>>>> globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca >>>>> mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca en nombre >>>>> de Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com >>>>> mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com >>>>> *Enviado:* martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 11:41 a. m. >>>>> *Para:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global >>>>> Outlook Community >>>>> *Asunto:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH response to >>>>> ADHO Change in Chair and Call for Recommendations on >>>>> inter-cultural communication >>>>> Thank you, Sara, for this background. Things are in >>>>> transition right now and the question of recruiting >>>>> language reviewers hinges more at this moment on >>>>> whether the structures will be there to receive them. >>>>> I think GO::DH could, in theory, expand the reviewer >>>>> pool by a substantial amount if we set our energies to >>>>> it, but I think there are tacit reasons why that >>>>> massive recruitment effort hasn't happened. I >>>>> /personally/ think we still have work to do on the >>>>> ADHO side (and to a lesser degree our own CO's) before >>>>> I, again /personally/, go out on a campaign to bring >>>>> in friends and friends of friends into the fold. You >>>>> shrewdly notice though that some of us with >>>>> reservations will do that work for Montreal and >>>>> Mexico, and /just in time/, we hope, as some or all of >>>>> our recommendations get implemented. >>>>> >>>>> cheers, >>>>> a. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 8:37 PM, Sara A. Schmidt >>>>> <saschmidt8@gmail.com mailto:saschmidt8@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In response to Isabel's question "What role can >>>>> having the DH conference in Mexico City have in >>>>> 2018?" I feel compelled to note that I sincerely >>>>> hope the Montreal and Mexico City conferences will >>>>> lead to more French and Spanish speakers >>>>> volunteering to review for the DH conference. >>>>> >>>>> As some of you may know, I set up accounts for >>>>> reviewers in conftool back in the fall of 2006 and >>>>> worked with a few Program Committee Chairs to add >>>>> more reviewers paying particular attention to >>>>> increasing the numbers of those willing to read >>>>> the languages listed in the DH2007 and DH2008 cfps >>>>> and particular attention to increasing the numbers >>>>> of reviewers with expertise in certain subject >>>>> areas where there was a need for additional >>>>> reviewers. I'm still rather amazed that ADHO would >>>>> list Chinese and Japanese in a cfp when they only >>>>> had one reviewer willing and able to read those >>>>> languages circa fall 2006 and Arabic when they >>>>> didn't have a single reviewer capable of reading >>>>> Arabic. Okay, technically the cfp did state that >>>>> authors were supposed to provide an English >>>>> language translation of their abstracts, but as I >>>>> would have anticipated not everyone noted that >>>>> they were supposed to provide an English >>>>> translation. Consequently the DH2007 PC Chair >>>>> ended up needing to have some Russian abstracts >>>>> translated by a member of the PC Committee because >>>>> he not only didn't have enough reviewers capable >>>>> of reading Russian circa fall 2006, he also didn't >>>>> know which reviewers could read Russian. >>>>> >>>>> While I did manage to increase the numbers of >>>>> reviewers willing to read languages other than >>>>> English and to add information regarding languages >>>>> reviewers were willing to read into conftool abet >>>>> in a less than ideal way, there was still a need >>>>> for far more work to be done in my opinion. While >>>>> I know ADHO has since moved to issuing open calls >>>>> for reviewers, my witnessing one while still >>>>> working on the database suggested to me that open >>>>> calls work to increase the number of individuals >>>>> in the same country as the PC Chair (since they >>>>> are more likely to see and respond to the call as >>>>> soon as it is sent out) and the number of North >>>>> Americans (since there a number of North Americans >>>>> who will tweet and retweet the calls for reviewers >>>>> so they reach their North American colleagues). >>>>> >>>>> My understanding is that there should be an open >>>>> call for reviewers before the next conference. I >>>>> would strongly encourage members of the GO:DH >>>>> community to share that call with their colleagues >>>>> especially those colleagues who would be willing >>>>> to read abstracts in any languages other than >>>>> English. Even if a particular language isn't >>>>> listed in the cfp for DH2016, there is always a >>>>> chance that someone might turn in an abstract >>>>> dealing with texts in that particular language and >>>>> in my opinion it would be very helpful for the PC >>>>> Chair to have the opportunity to assign the >>>>> abstract to at least one reviewer who can read >>>>> that language. I also honestly believe that having >>>>> a more linguistically and culturally diverse pool >>>>> of reviewers is very beneficial for the conference. >>>>> >>>>> I would also note that I know in the pre-DH2007 >>>>> period there was a willingness to allow reviewers >>>>> to volunteer to review abstracts in languages >>>>> other than English without requiring them to >>>>> review English language abstracts. I wish the >>>>> powers that be were still allowing this as I feel >>>>> it might be easier to increase the numbers of >>>>> reviewers willing to read certain languages if one >>>>> allowed them to choose to only read abstracts in >>>>> their first language. There also was a willingness >>>>> to let reviewers provide comments for authors in >>>>> the language the abstract was submitted in as long >>>>> as they also provided some feedback for the PC in >>>>> English as well. >>>>> >>>>> Sara Schmidt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:46 PM, igalina >>>>> <igalina@unam.mx mailto:igalina@unam.mx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> I would like to join in and celebrate the fact >>>>> that you invited us all to contribute to the >>>>> document. I am sorry that due to the short >>>>> time span and personal workload I was unable >>>>> to contribute to the document. >>>>> >>>>> I think there is a general agreement that the >>>>> AHDO structure is currently not flexible or >>>>> inclusive enough and recent episodes are a >>>>> reflection of this. I am not quite sure >>>>> though what I would like ADHO to look like and >>>>> how it should function. At present there seems >>>>> to be a division between a national/regional >>>>> approach and a linguistic one (sometimes they >>>>> are the same but not always). As it stands >>>>> currently the structure doesn't make much >>>>> sense, and it doesn't seem very fair in terms >>>>> of decision making. However, I think that the >>>>> groups, in particular this one, are in place >>>>> for us to have discussions about this. >>>>> The RedHD is not a CO or part of a CO. Where >>>>> do we fit in in all of this? What are the >>>>> different options for participating? How do we >>>>> relate not only to ADHO but to other DH >>>>> associations both official and 'un-official' >>>>> or emerging? What role can having the DH >>>>> conference in Mexico City have in 2018? >>>>> I think that one of the most important issues, >>>>> regardless of how one becomes associated to >>>>> ADHO, is how the agenda is decided and >>>>> discussed. Association should not mean >>>>> assimilation. >>>>> Sorry if my ideas are not very developed but I >>>>> did want to write and say how important I >>>>> think this discussion is. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Isabel >>>>> >>>>> ---------- >>>>> Dra. Isabel Galina Russell >>>>> Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, >>>>> Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) >>>>> igalina@unam.mx mailto:igalina@unam.mx >>>>> @igalina >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> De: globaloutlookdh-l >>>>> <globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca >>>>> mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca> >>>>> en nombre de Øyvind Eide <lister@oeide.no >>>>> mailto:lister@oeide.no> >>>>> Enviado: domingo, 29 de noviembre de 2015 >>>>> 02:28 p. m. >>>>> Para: A list for participants in the ADHO DH >>>>> Global Outlook Community >>>>> Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] GO::DH >>>>> response to ADHO Change in Chair and Call >>>>> for Recommendations on inter-cultural >>>>> communication >>>>> >>>>> Dear Domenico, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for a clear and thorough reply. We >>>>> may not agree on all aspects of history, nor >>>>> on the details of the best (least bad) future >>>>> organisation (should the power of Iceland be >>>>> the same as the power of China? Maybe that is >>>>> the least bad we can do), but I think we agree >>>>> that ADHO must change into something easier to >>>>> manage and more representative and inclusive. >>>>> My take on this is to see what comes out of >>>>> the current process for simplifying the >>>>> structure of ADHO. If that indeed makes it >>>>> better it gives us a starting point for >>>>> further development and changes. >>>>> >>>>> ADHO is a tool which is only meaningful as >>>>> long as it makes sense to us, it should never >>>>> become a goal in itself. For those working >>>>> within the system that is always important to >>>>> remember, it is so easy to make our tools our >>>>> goals. For me ADHO still makes sense. We do >>>>> good things with it and it is a place to meet. >>>>> >>>>> I also believe that the free software concept >>>>> of “gjørokrati” (do-ocracy in English?) is one >>>>> aspect -- those who are willing to do work >>>>> gets more influence. It has to be checked and >>>>> limited by other bases for power, though. >>>>> >>>>> Ha en fin kveld, >>>>> >>>>> Øyvind >>>>> >>>>> On 29. nov. 2015, at 20:51, Domenico Fiormonte >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Dear Øyvind and everyone, >>>>> > >>>>> > my observations referred initially to the >>>>> quality and nature of the decision-making >>>>> process that will lead ADHO to accept or not >>>>> our suggestions. Then I extended my >>>>> observations, in my usual polemic style, to >>>>> ADHO political and institutional settings as a >>>>> whole. I'm delighted to answer your question, >>>>> but I would like to know if you think that >>>>> spending hours on these proposals knowing that >>>>> ADHO has no obligation to accept any of them >>>>> is a part of a democratic exercise. Of course >>>>> I believe it is better than nothing. But even >>>>> octroyées constitutions were better than >>>>> absolutism. >>>>> > >>>>> > What I would prefer for our community is not >>>>> a mystery and you can find it in dozens of >>>>> articles, blog posts, emails, etc. I made >>>>> public in the last fifteen years. What I think >>>>> we need is a federation of national associations. >>>>> > Isn't that simple? Not perfect, of course, >>>>> but a step forward. >>>>> > >>>>> > I know that an elective political system is >>>>> just one of the several features that defines >>>>> and constitutes a democratic system. But what >>>>> you call indirect democracy derives from the >>>>> intrinsic limits of the ADHO initial project, >>>>> i.e. to create an umbrella organization for >>>>> what was already there -- at least in the >>>>> visible horizon of a prevalently Anglophone >>>>> community. I don't think that in those times >>>>> it was a bad idea or that ADHO has done >>>>> nothing so far to be more inclusive. However, >>>>> that original bias remained. The structure was >>>>> created to include existent associations >>>>> (although recently the new Australasian >>>>> association joined ADHO reaffirming the >>>>> Anglophone majority). Other national European >>>>> associations, like the Italian AIUCD and the >>>>> German DDH, joined ADHO through the EADH. The >>>>> result is that both the presence and the >>>>> influence of Italian and German communities >>>>> are in principle diluted comparing to other >>>>> national communities. >>>>> > And how about the French and Spanish >>>>> associations? Do we think these two >>>>> communities will accept, like the German and >>>>> the Italian associations, to be represented in >>>>> ADHO by the EADH? (Incidentally, the process >>>>> that led at least one of these two >>>>> associations to join EADH was far from >>>>> transparent, as members were not publicly >>>>> consulted.) >>>>> > >>>>> > I'm aware of present ADHO's efforts to >>>>> reflect in its committees a power balance not >>>>> just based on numbers, but that doesn't >>>>> change the essence of the problem: inequality >>>>> of representation. This inequality, >>>>> unfortunately, it's a default condition of the >>>>> present governance structure. >>>>> > >>>>> > As I said and wrote many times, it is not >>>>> acceptable that if I represent a national >>>>> group in Europe I could join ADHO only >>>>> through EADH, but if I am Mexican or Canadian >>>>> I can join directly. It is like saying that if >>>>> Turkey wants to join the EU has to join before >>>>> Romania or Hungary. I'm aware that absurdities >>>>> like these have historical reasons. But we are >>>>> here to change and make our history, not to be >>>>> subjects of it. So I'm really sorry for those >>>>> friends and colleagues who spent a >>>>> considerable amount of time, and in same cases >>>>> most of their lifes, building and >>>>> strengthening organizations like EADH, but in >>>>> fact the same existence of such 'constituent >>>>> organizations' makes today not possible to >>>>> speak about a democratically representative >>>>> DH international organization. What seems more >>>>> serious is that the current governance >>>>> structure prevents other regional and national >>>>> groups to join ADHO freely and on equal basis >>>>> preconditions. >>>>> > >>>>> > I think it is just a matter of time: things >>>>> soon or later will change also in DH, and new >>>>> realities will substitute old ones. You may >>>>> not agree with what I wrote so far, but what >>>>> is clear is that present structures cannot >>>>> accommodate the global explosion of DH. The >>>>> sooner we'll realize this, the better for >>>>> everyone. >>>>> > >>>>> > Sorry for this lengthy reply. >>>>> > >>>>> > Saluti a tutti >>>>> > >>>>> > Domenico >>>>> > >>>>> > Il 29/Nov/2015 13:56, "Øyvind Eide" >>>>> <lister@oeide.no mailto:lister@oeide.no> ha >>>>> scritto: >>>>> > Dear Domenico, >>>>> > >>>>> > ADHO is an indirect democracy: there are six >>>>> constituent organisations, with (I think all >>>>> of them) elected boards. These boards select >>>>> voting members to the ADHO Steering Committee. >>>>> > >>>>> > Whether such an indirect structure can be >>>>> called democratic is a question of how one >>>>> defines democracy. But there are other >>>>> organisations using a similar indirect >>>>> structure that are claimed to be democratic. >>>>> > >>>>> > Would you prefer to turn ADHO into an >>>>> organisation with personal membership and a >>>>> Steering Committee elected on a one person-one >>>>> vote basis? >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Øyvind >>>>> > >>>>> > On 29. nov. 2015, at 06:38, Domenico >>>>> Fiormonte wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > Hi Élika and everyone, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > I just realized that I've inserted in the >>>>> intercultural etc. document some proposals and >>>>> reflections that are quite general and concern >>>>> also governance and other topics. Just feel >>>>> free to move them around if you think they >>>>> make any sense. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Thanks for giving us the opportunity to >>>>> discuss these issues in a collective way. But >>>>> the fact that ADHO can either accept or reject >>>>> these suggestions reminds me of a situation >>>>> similar to XVII-XVIII century Europe where >>>>> kings and rulers could or could not accept the >>>>> proposals made by elected or partially elected >>>>> assemblies. So once again I like to call a >>>>> spade a spade: ADHO it is not a democratic >>>>> organization. We can put as much effort as we >>>>> wish in drafting our proposals and pushing our >>>>> requests, but the reality is that our action >>>>> can be considered, in the best case, what >>>>> constitutional experts would call a form of >>>>> 'moral persuasion'. >>>>> > > So I'm afraid we are not still equal on >>>>> this (digital humanities) world. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Sorry for being out of line with this. But >>>>> there is no other way to defend democracy in >>>>> these days except to start applying it. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Domenico >>>>> > > Il 29/Nov/2015 06:46, "Élika Ortega" >>>>> <elikaortega@gmail.com >>>>> mailto:elikaortega@gmail.com> ha scritto: >>>>> > > Dear all, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > This is the link to part 1 of the document >>>>> we're working on Governance and Mentorship >>>>> that Alex Gil and I prepared. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uM7ePK-SRCqvI8axCKZnykg4H3WBHDAIeUHWd3rL... >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Please, feel free to add and comment. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > All best, >>>>> > > Élika >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Daniel >>>>> O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca >>>>> mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: >>>>> > > Hi all, >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Earlier this week, ADHO announced a change >>>>> in leadership as John Nerbonne stepped down as >>>>> ADHO chair and Karina van Dalen-Oskam was >>>>> elected as interim chair (the announcement is >>>>> here: >>>>> http://adho.org/announcements/2015/adho-announces-new-steering-committee-cha...). >>>>> As part of the announcement, Karina called for >>>>> a discussion on inter-cultural communication: >>>>> > > >>>>> > > "The first thing I have asked the Steering >>>>> Committee to do, is to establish a protocol or >>>>> a set of rules/guidelines for dealing with >>>>> these fundamental cultural issues. We will not >>>>> be the only organization that runs into this >>>>> kind of problems. I have asked all members of >>>>> the Steering Committee to do some research, >>>>> and I would welcome input from others as well. >>>>> Can you find guidelines that we could >>>>> adopt/adapt for ADHO? Do colleagues from other >>>>> international organizations have suggestions >>>>> based on their own experience? Are there >>>>> policy makers who can help? " >>>>> > > >>>>> > > This is something GO::DH can contribute >>>>> to: it is closely related to our core interest >>>>> AND we have actually discussed parts of this >>>>> in our early days (see for example, the >>>>> discussion involving some of these emails: >>>>> http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-April/000319.html >>>>> http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-January/000163.htm... >>>>> http://listserv.uleth.ca/pipermail/globaloutlookdh-l/2013-January/000188.htm... >>>>> > > >>>>> > > At our meeting today, the executive >>>>> decided to lead development of a GO::DH >>>>> response to Karina's call. Because of the time >>>>> limitations, we will not be able to have a >>>>> full membership development and approval >>>>> process (it is due Nov. 30th), though we may >>>>> want to develop the interim statement further >>>>> using that process after it is submitted to >>>>> ADHO. For this reason it will be submitted >>>>> formally as a document of the executive (and >>>>> any additional authors) and as specifically >>>>> reflecting their views rather than those of >>>>> the SIG as a whole. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > But we would very much to develop this as >>>>> openly and as broadly as possible within those >>>>> constraints. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > To do this, we will be developing and >>>>> writing the document openly in Google Docs >>>>> between now and Sunday. We have divided our >>>>> response into three sections: >>>>> > > • Recognising and Accommodating >>>>> Barriers to Participation (Lead editor: Gimena >>>>> del Rio) >>>>> > > • Best practice in governance and >>>>> mentorship (Lead editors: Alex Gil and Élika >>>>> Ortega >>>>> > > • Best practice in inter-cultural >>>>> language use and communication (Lead editors: >>>>> Daniel O'Donnell and Øyvind Eide). >>>>> > > Each of the editors will be sharing a link >>>>> to a Google doc specifically for their section >>>>> with the list in the next couple of hours. In >>>>> the document, they will collect notes and >>>>> points and examples (and ask you to help with >>>>> your ideas). On Sunday morning, we will then >>>>> lock the documents down and edit them into a >>>>> narrative (it is because of time pressure that >>>>> we will institute this lock down; this >>>>> lock-down and the lack of time for followup >>>>> consultation is also why, in the end, it will >>>>> be submitted as a document of the executive >>>>> rather than the SIG as a whole). >>>>> > > >>>>> > > In keeping with the GO::DH ethos, we >>>>> encourage people to contribute in whatever >>>>> language you feel most comfortable in and let >>>>> the editors figure out how to combine the bits >>>>> and pieces. Our final document will be >>>>> submitted in three forms: an original language >>>>> narrative written in the languages the editors >>>>> feel most comfortable in (probably English and >>>>> Spanish for the most part), an >>>>> English-language, lingua franca translation >>>>> for wide dissemination, and, as Karina has >>>>> indicated that her first choice would be for >>>>> Dutch, a Dutch-language submission copy. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Let me emphasis the extent to which we >>>>> welcome your ideas on these topics and invite >>>>> you to contribute to the formulation of our >>>>> response. It may also make sense to use the >>>>> list as a way of conversationally developing >>>>> ideas under these topics as well, so please >>>>> feel free to contribute ideas that way, as >>>>> well, again in whatever language you feel most >>>>> appropriate. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > -dan >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> > > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list >>>>> > > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca >>>>> mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca >>>>> > > >>>>> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l >>>>> > > >>>>> > > You are currently subscribed to this list >>>>> in NON-digest mode. This means you receive >>>>> every message as it is posted. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > If this represents too much traffic, you >>>>> can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends >>>>> out a single email once a day containing the >>>>> entire day's postings. 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