What a great week of so many stimulating exchanges!
I'm really excited to get things started for the Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit. I have started a google doc where we can begin drafting some of the ideas we've discussed here and elsewhere. Doc can be found here: Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit https://docs.google.com/document/d/13EMsxtibXrN2c49Z67xSwLArJKcxTN0YmBfDDjbHwfw/edit?usp=sharing.
Hope everyone has a great weekend! Élika
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:
That sounds great, Isabel! I will move this conversation off this list, so those who want to talk about the DH whisperer's and translation toolkit can continue to do so.
I will start a new thread later this afternoon, with what has been said so far.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, igalina igalina@unam.mx wrote:
Sorry for jumping in so late into the discussion. At the RedHD we developed a database of DH projects and used Dublin Core fields with some adjustments for DH projects. I then worked with Quinn from DH Commons to map out the fields we were using to the DH Commons database. Our idea was to find a way so that the DH Commons would harvest our database periodically (as opposed to having a centralized system where we used the DH Commons interface to add new projects). We thought this could then be used as a prototype for other people around the world who had their own databases but wanted to contribute to a central database. And for those that didn't have their own system they could use the DH Commons one directly.
Quinn and I then both had babies and so the project was put on standby but I would be more than happy to provide the documentation that I have about the RedHD database and the mapping if this could be of use. I would also be interested in participating in this initiative. I don't know if Quinn is on this list.
Best wishes,
Isabel
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*De:* globaloutlookdh-l globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca en nombre de Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com *Enviado:* viernes, 25 de julio de 2014 09:52 a.m. *Para:* guzzettg@gmail.com; A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community *Asunto:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
I agree with Giorgio about the option of rethinking the way the presentation are given. I had a little chat with Alex Gil in Lausana about the way in which the poster season could be multilingual. We don't go to far , but it`s posible to have the poste in spanish, for example, and material in other languages, or a whisper fellow helping you.
e
2014-07-25 3:06 GMT-05:00 Giorgio Guzzetta guzzettg@gmail.com:
Dear all, this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or two quick consideration out of the box:
-a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the number of people walking around with the badge at the conference, which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing, I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with whispering and other on-site "tools".
- following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper
could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference, to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel, giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden, judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.
-speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction between local/regional and global, or something like that)
Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after, Giorgio
On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk wrote:
Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact
that
there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each other’s experiences.
P
From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Neil Fraistat Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't
have to
be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel
Galina
is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell
and
Laurent Romary).
Best, Neil
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani <epriani@gmail.commailto:epriani@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Everybody
For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be
part of
that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .
e
2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul <paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk>:
It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware
that
it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global
outlook’
means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from
slightly
different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would
be a
very good idea.
Best Paul
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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:
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On Behalf Of Alex Gil Sent: 24 July 2014 01:59 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community
Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's
I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping
network
the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is
where
the minimal metadata standard would be useful.
A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.
A.
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH
through
their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. ________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:
globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca>]
on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.commailto:nfraistat@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-14 11:44
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Alex and all,
My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service
well
and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be
enhanced for
registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and
DiRT
will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.
I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to
work with
GO::DH on this.
Best, Neil
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,
I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera.
The
other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task
of
expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a
register of
dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition
overnight,
but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a
global
stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system.
I have
already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard
for DH
project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way
to
absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better
place to
build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.
My two cents, a.
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega <elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks!
Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!
Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is
precisely
the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to
presentations that
are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great
idea. I
wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least
on
the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:
globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca>]
on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.esmailto:nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.
I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to
participate
contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.
Warmly.
Nuria
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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:
I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:
I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.
-dan
On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:
> Hi all, > > Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative > in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is: > >
http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/
> [3] > > I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about > multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading > her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do! > > (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon). > > Cheers, > A. > > _______________________________________________ > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] > > You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This > means you receive every message as it is posted. > > If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in > DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing > the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You > can request a password reminder from this page if you have > forgotten yours.
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