Hi everybody,
Apologies for cross-posting. I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection -- with some anticipation of a forthcoming study: http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/ I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"), but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario (starting with the DH).
All the best
Domenico
Just quickly, a really interesting paper, Domenico.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015, 18:57 Domenico Fiormonte domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everybody,
Apologies for cross-posting. I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection -- with some anticipation of a forthcoming study: http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/ I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"), but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario (starting with the DH).
All the best
Domenico
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Thanks Dan and Frédéric.
Scopus is to non-Anglophone Humanities like a pusher that keeps selling cocaine arguing that the best way to detox is an overdose.
2015-07-13 15:55 GMT+02:00 Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca:
Just quickly, a really interesting paper, Domenico.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015, 18:57 Domenico Fiormonte < domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
Apologies for cross-posting. I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection -- with some anticipation of a forthcoming study: http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/ I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"), but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario (starting with the DH).
All the best
Domenico
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Dear Domenico,
Just read your article and Crane's + the comments on Humanistica. Agreed on SCOPUS. Self fulfilling prophecy material at the behest of business interests.
Very related to this conversation, I've been involved in heavy duty conversations these past few weeks on the oddly named MLMC and to a lesser extent the PC about language diversity, and I'm happy to report that we're making slow progress. Little by little we convince others that, and I quote the wonderful Glenn Worthey here, "we don't need to fight for the lingua franca." The lingua franca fights for itself. I know so many well meaning folks from outside and inside Europe and the US who defend the lingua franca model because they've had bad experiences with multi-lingual conferences or journals, or because they believe in a global community and think this is the only way to achieve one. We have to work with these folks to get them to see that we are talking about learning how to do translation right, and that true globality in the humanities is by definition, a new Babel--uncomfortable, but not crippling... Little by little. Your work with citations here is enormously helpful in this regard. Looking forward to your full article!
a.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Domenico Fiormonte < domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Dan and Frédéric.
Scopus is to non-Anglophone Humanities like a pusher that keeps selling cocaine arguing that the best way to detox is an overdose.
2015-07-13 15:55 GMT+02:00 Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca:
Just quickly, a really interesting paper, Domenico.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015, 18:57 Domenico Fiormonte < domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everybody,
Apologies for cross-posting. I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection -- with some anticipation of a forthcoming study: http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/ I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"), but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario (starting with the DH).
All the best
Domenico
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Dear Domenico, Alex, and all,
I think this is exactly the point. Many (all?) of us have experienced situations where multi-linguality led to ghettoisation — not the least at conferences.
If working models of real time translation can be shown — and I believe we now have the tools and ideas making that quite likely — then those experiences can be countered by different ones.
It will be extremely interesting to see what the call for papers for the first Nordic conference next year will lead to. Five countries, five currencies (of which one suspended from international trade), a population of some 25 million all together. A lot of diversity — but everybody (at least in academia) speaks and understands English. Will there be non-English papers? If so, can we make it worthwhile for international participants to attend them?
Best,
Øyvind
13. juli 2015 kl. 17:50 skrev Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com:
Dear Domenico,
Just read your article and Crane's + the comments on Humanistica. Agreed on SCOPUS. Self fulfilling prophecy material at the behest of business interests.
Very related to this conversation, I've been involved in heavy duty conversations these past few weeks on the oddly named MLMC and to a lesser extent the PC about language diversity, and I'm happy to report that we're making slow progress. Little by little we convince others that, and I quote the wonderful Glenn Worthey here, "we don't need to fight for the lingua franca." The lingua franca fights for itself. I know so many well meaning folks from outside and inside Europe and the US who defend the lingua franca model because they've had bad experiences with multi-lingual conferences or journals, or because they believe in a global community and think this is the only way to achieve one. We have to work with these folks to get them to see that we are talking about learning how to do translation right, and that true globality in the humanities is by definition, a new Babel--uncomfortable, but not crippling... Little by little. Your work with citations here is enormously helpful in this regard. Looking forward to your full article!
a.
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Domenico Fiormonte domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dan and Frédéric.
Scopus is to non-Anglophone Humanities like a pusher that keeps selling cocaine arguing that the best way to detox is an overdose.
2015-07-13 15:55 GMT+02:00 Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca: Just quickly, a really interesting paper, Domenico.
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015, 18:57 Domenico Fiormonte domenico.fiormonte@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody,
Apologies for cross-posting. I think people on this list could be interested in this reflection -- with some anticipation of a forthcoming study: http://infolet.it/2015/07/12/monocultural-humanities/ I started to write it as response to Gregory Crane's article ("The Big Humanities, National Identity and the Digital Humanities in Germany"), but it came out too long, so I decided to make a blog post.
It would be great if a discussion here and in institutional places would produce some new proposals for changing this discouraging scenario (starting with the DH).
All the best
Domenico
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