Hi GO::DH,
Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards.
As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters).
The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges.
For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair.
-James
Hi all,
Sorry for not jumping in earlier. I've been ill and slower than usual.
James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book). I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it.
Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English.
Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will.
Your great admirer, Alex.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.ukwrote:
Hi GO::DH,
Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards.
As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters).
The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges.
For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair.
-James
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Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto.
Best regards,
e
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Sorry for not jumping in earlier. I've been ill and slower than usual.
James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book). I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it.
Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English.
Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will.
Your great admirer, Alex.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk
wrote:
Hi GO::DH,
Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards.
As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters).
The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges.
For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair.
-James
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Hi Alex and Ernesto,
Thanks! That was my precisely my thought (especially that it would relate 'Other' with 'Non-English' which seemed a really really dangerous idea).
I'll thank the person for the idea but explain how it may be construed as even more divisive and problematic.
Thanks for your thoughts!
-James
On 07/02/14 13:09, Ernesto Priego wrote:
Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto.
Best regards,
e
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Sorry for not jumping in earlier. I've been ill and slower than usual. James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)>. I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it. Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English. Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will. Your great admirer, Alex. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi GO::DH, Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards. As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters). The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges. For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair. -James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> Academic IT Services, University of Oxford _________________________________________________ globaloutlookdh-l mailing list globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca <mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca> http://listserv.uleth.ca/__mailman/listinfo/__globaloutlookdh-l <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l> You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted. If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/__mailman/options/__globaloutlookdh-l <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l> You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours. _______________________________________________ globaloutlookdh-l mailing list globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca <mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted. If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours.
To my mind, the best way to open DH Awards to non English contents, without creating a ghetto with a specific entry, is to translate the call and the categories in 4-5 languages. By principle, I refuse to use any negative denominations like "non English". I am always disturbed by the "non-fiction" category, in English, which is very weak and negative. Best regards, Marin
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM, James Cummings James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.ukwrote:
Hi Alex and Ernesto,
Thanks! That was my precisely my thought (especially that it would relate 'Other' with 'Non-English' which seemed a really really dangerous idea).
I'll thank the person for the idea but explain how it may be construed as even more divisive and problematic.
Thanks for your thoughts!
-James
On 07/02/14 13:09, Ernesto Priego wrote:
Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto.
Best regards,
e
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Acting Course Director, MSc/MA Electronic Publishing, City University London *
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Sorry for not jumping in earlier. I've been ill and slower than usual. James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)>. I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it. Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English. Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will. Your great admirer, Alex. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote: Hi GO::DH, Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards. As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters). The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges. For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair. -James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> Academic IT Services, University of Oxford _________________________________________________ globaloutlookdh-l mailing list globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca <mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca> http://listserv.uleth.ca/__mailman/listinfo/__globaloutlookdh-l <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l> You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted. If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/__mailman/options/__globaloutlookdh-l <http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l> You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours. _______________________________________________ globaloutlookdh-l mailing list globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca <mailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This means you receive every message as it is posted. If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l You can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten yours.-- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk Academic IT Services, University of Oxford
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Marin,
Merci! C'est aussi un bon point. Le plan était certainement pour cette année (2014) pour traduire l'appel à candidatures et l'appel à voter en plusieurs langues (et de vous approcher pour l'aide!). Mais puisque vous savez que mon français est terrible alors...
Thanks! Also a good point. The plan was definitely for this year to translate the call for nominations and call to vote into multiple languages (and will approach you guys to help!). I should probably target Mandarin, Spanish, Hindi, and Arabic if possible. (According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) but I suppose that depends on volunteers. I understand the difficulty of describing something by use of negation of the category you are starting from - very difficult not to. In the case of 'non-fiction', for example, this sometimes encompasses some material I wouldn't, in English, describe as 'factual'. I will try to endeavour to stress the positive 'any language' aspect even more going forward.
Many thanks, -James
On 09/02/14 14:20, Marin Dacos wrote:
To my mind, the best way to open DH Awards to non English contents, without creating a ghetto with a specific entry, is to translate the call and the categories in 4-5 languages. By principle, I refuse to use any negative denominations like "non English". I am always disturbed by the "non-fiction" category, in English, which is very weak and negative. Best regards, Marin
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi Alex and Ernesto, Thanks! That was my precisely my thought (especially that it would relate 'Other' with 'Non-English' which seemed a really really dangerous idea). I'll thank the person for the idea but explain how it may be construed as even more divisive and problematic. Thanks for your thoughts! -James On 07/02/14 13:09, Ernesto Priego wrote: Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto. Best regards, e * * * Dr Ernesto Priego *Lecturer in Library Science Acting Course Director, MSc/MA Electronic Publishing, City University London * * City University London offers a wide range of postgraduate courses delivered by world-leading academics. Register for our Open Evening <http://www.city.ac.uk/events/__2014/feb/postgraduate-open-__evening <http://www.city.ac.uk/events/2014/feb/postgraduate-open-evening>> on Wednesday 19^th February to find out more. MediaCommons' THE NEW EVERYDAY is happy to announce the publication of a cluster on THE MULTIMODALITY OF COMICS IN EVERYDAY LIFE, curated by Ernesto Priego of City University London and David N. Wright of Douglas College. http://mediacommons.__futureofthebook.org/tne/__cluster/multimodality-comics-__everyday-life <http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/tne/cluster/multimodality-comics-everyday-life> http://epriego.wordpress.com/ @ernestopriego <https://twitter.com/__ernestopriego <https://twitter.com/ernestopriego>> Editor-in-Chief, /The Comics Grid: Journal of Comics Scholarship**/http://www.__comicsgrid.com/ <http://www.comicsgrid.com/> Subscribe to the Comics Grid Newsletter: http://eepurl.com/iOYAj On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.com <mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> <mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com <mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com>__>> wrote: Hi all, Sorry for not jumping in earlier. I've been ill and slower than usual. James, creating a category for Other that only has Non-English entries is NOT-A-Good-Idea. Take a moment to think about this equation, Other=Non-English, then think about the subjectivities following on the heels of Edward Said's Orientalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Orientalism_(book) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism_(book)>>. I know this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it. Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English. Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will. Your great admirer, Alex. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.__ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>>> wrote: Hi GO::DH, Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards. As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters). The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges. For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. 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We've been pretty good at getting things out in different languages, and have added our first, I believe, Tagalog speaker.
I'd say advertise in a number of different languages--the most common we've had are probably English, Spanish, Simplified Chinese, French, Italian, and I think Japanese (it is not only a function of number of speakers in the community--which is not the same thing as world wide, but also which communities see translation as desirable/welcoming, etc.). We could translate into Dutch or German, for example, but the value attached to translation among German and Dutch speakers seems to be low. English, on the other hand, places an extremely high value on translation.
I've been thinking more about the categories. I think the intractable issue is going to be volunteer effort, because any typology that won't create bottlenecks with the one year eligibility period is going to require more effort.
Your 2013 categories are Best DH contribution not in the English language; Best use of DH for fun; Best DH blog post, article, or short publication; Best DH visualization or infographic; Best DH project for public audiences.
As a typology, it is pretty good although the two weakest ones (taking the problems with "not English" as read) are presumably "for fun" and "for public audiences" since both of those refer to intention, while the others refer to type (meaning entries in "fun" and "for public audiences" might also be one of the other types).
I could see a couple of other approaches. One, really interesting (though complex and perhaps only good in theory, might be to take Unsworth's Primitives and ask people to nominate based on the primary activity/focus of the project:
* Discovering * Annotating * Comparing * Referring * Sampling * Illustrating * Representing * (and I'd add communicating/teaching).
That might be too abstract, however. Another list, taking the same approach but in a slightly more concrete way, might include:
* Publication (blogs, articles, visualisations, books) * Edition/facsimile (Understood more broadly as representation of primary source(s) (editions, 3D cultural heritage)) * Mapping * Making * Reference/tertiary research * Collecting * Crowdsourcing * Advocacy and policy initiatives * Pedagogy * Meta (tools, code, and standards)
I'm not sure you'd need an "other" in this case, but it is probably safest to have one and restrict to things that are not arguably one of the other categories. There will be overlap among the other fields, but you could ask people to nominate according to the primary purpose or function.
The only way I see of making something like this manageable is to go on a two year rotation: 5 categories a year, two year eligibility.
On 14-02-09 08:11 AM, James Cummings wrote:
Marin,
Merci! C'est aussi un bon point. Le plan était certainement pour cette année (2014) pour traduire l'appel à candidatures et l'appel à voter en plusieurs langues (et de vous approcher pour l'aide!). Mais puisque vous savez que mon français est terrible alors...
Thanks! Also a good point. The plan was definitely for this year to translate the call for nominations and call to vote into multiple languages (and will approach you guys to help!). I should probably target Mandarin, Spanish, Hindi, and Arabic if possible. (According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_number_of_native_speakers) but I suppose that depends on volunteers. I understand the difficulty of describing something by use of negation of the category you are starting from - very difficult not to. In the case of 'non-fiction', for example, this sometimes encompasses some material I wouldn't, in English, describe as 'factual'. I will try to endeavour to stress the positive 'any language' aspect even more going forward.
Many thanks, -James
On 09/02/14 14:20, Marin Dacos wrote:
To my mind, the best way to open DH Awards to non English contents, without creating a ghetto with a specific entry, is to translate the call and the categories in 4-5 languages. By principle, I refuse to use any negative denominations like "non English". I am always disturbed by the "non-fiction" category, in English, which is very weak and negative. Best regards, Marin
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Hi Alex and Ernesto, Thanks! That was my precisely my thought (especially that it would relate 'Other' with 'Non-English' which seemed a really really dangerous idea). I'll thank the person for the idea but explain how it may be construed as even more divisive and problematic. Thanks for your thoughts! -James On 07/02/14 13:09, Ernesto Priego wrote: Ditto to what Alex has just shared. Ditto. Best regards, e * * * Dr Ernesto Priego *Lecturer in Library Science Acting Course Director, MSc/MA Electronic Publishing, City University London * * City University London offers a wide range of postgraduate courses delivered by world-leading academics. Register for our Open Evening<http://www.city.ac.uk/events/__2014/feb/postgraduate-open-__evening http://www.city.ac.uk/events/2014/feb/postgraduate-open-evening> on Wednesday 19^th February to find out more.
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this is difficult, but you are moving in the right direction! I salute your effort to create a space for 'positive discrimination,' or affirmative action as the USeans call it. Since the awards would lose what makes them unique unless voting was 100% volunteer, may I suggest simply continuing the work of advocacy and encouragement behind the scenes. Just do not make any distinction in the categories. Use the other category as Dan suggests, to make sure the community surprises us. We will help you here at GO:DH to reach larger audiences whose main vehicle of digital expression is not English. Let me be clear. If you make sure to advocate for a kaleidoscopic and babylonian ecosystem of digital humanities, and show awareness that English models on offer are NOT universal or representative of the rest of us, I'll be on your side if you receive any ill will. Your great admirer, Alex. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:17 AM, James Cummings <James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.__ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>>> wrote: Hi GO::DH, Me again! Sorry. After summarising the suggestions received here I received a suggestion through other means that I'd like to run by you since it does feed into the desire to encourage non-anglo DH resources to nominate themselves for DH Awards. As you'll remember some didn't like the annual nature of the awards without a catch-all category of 'other' and some didn't like the non-English category because of a perceived ghettoisation of non-English resources. I resisted the 'other' category for two reasons (1: a *large* category for admin and voters; 2: difficulty of comparison for voters). The suggestion was made to me that there be an 'Other' category for anything that didn't fit into the other categories, but that nominations in this category be restricted to non-English resources (that didn't fit into any of the other categories and the nominations committee try to move things nominated here to other categories if suitable). The idea behind this suggestion, I believe, is that English resources don't get the benefit of the 'other' category and miss out as previously described, but non-English resources do not. This would be a form of so-called 'positive discrimination' based on the assumption that anglo resources have more than enough innate privileges. For my part, I found the idea clever but I worry about any form of discrimination (positive or not), and also couldn't think of a way to name it which didn't seem to repeat the perceived ghettoisation that people have seen in this year's category. While I don't think anglo-created resources would suffer unduly because of this, it still seems a bit unfair. -James -- Dr James Cummings, James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk> <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.__ac.uk <mailto:James.Cummings@it.ox.ac.uk>> Academic IT Services, University of Oxford
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