I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Thank you for the initiative and for the blog post! To me it was especially good to see and read how this is an opening to a variety of different practices, where whispering is one possibility. The Google docs one looked very interesting -- I would not be able to listen to speech in one language and take translated notes readable to others even if one of the languages were my mother tongue (which it would not be at DH), but those who could do it would make an important difference. To me it would open up sessions with papers in, e.g., French.

Kind regards,

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On 22. juli 2014, at 19:46, Élika Ortega wrote:

Sounds great! Élika

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote: I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote: I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

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Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

...

[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

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If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

...

[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

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Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

...

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

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If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

...

I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

...

[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

...

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

...

If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

> Hi all, > > Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative > in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is: > >

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

> [3] > > I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about > multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading > her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do! > > (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon). > > Cheers, > A. > > _______________________________________________ > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] > > You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This > means you receive every message as it is posted. > > If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in > DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing > the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You > can request a password reminder from this page if you have > forgotten yours.

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Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

e

2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] *On Behalf Of *Alex Gil *Sent:* 24 July 2014 01:59 *To:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

*Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.com] *Sent:* July-23-14 11:44

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best,

Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents,

a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42

To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

...

I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

...

[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Excellent. I agree we should bring her in. Right now we've been having the conversation in a smaller group, but I don't see any reason why we can't open it up to the larger group also for comment. In the spirit of openness, here's the metadata standard that I offered recently for discussion:

MINIMUM/REQUIRED

- Project Title - Team/Individual - Production Site(s) - Type (TaDiRAH?) - Language(s) - Brief Description - Status (planning, alpha, active, preserved, etc) - URI

OPTIONAL

- Dates - DiRT category (for tools)? - Media Assets - Subject - Contact Info - Referred By - Funding type - Production method - Notes

Some fields can take any data, others we felt we should have pre-determined categories. These are on a separate sheet in the excel file below. The categories with predetermined options are Type, Production method, Stages and Funding type.

What do you think?

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Neil Fraistat nfraistat@gmail.com wrote:

Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

e

2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware

...

that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best

Paul

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] *On Behalf Of *Alex Gil *Sent:* 24 July 2014 01:59 *To:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

*Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.com] *Sent:* July-23-14 11:44

*To:* globaloutlookdh-l, MailList *Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best,

Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents,

a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42

To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

...

I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

...

Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

...

[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Hi everybody,

I'm at the Dirt editorial board now too, and one of my suggestions yesterday was to make a translation into Spanish of the tools and the site. The idea was warmly received and Quinn suggested me to talk you in order to propose it as a collaborative work... so, maybe we could put efforts together...

For the metadata, what I suggested (thanks, Paul), was to use a linked data standard system, such as Dublin Core, as it is really useful to have such a classifcation if we want to expand our model to different projects using protocols like OAI-PMH, which is pretty easy to do. http://www.openarchives.org/pmh/

Hope it helps,

Best

Elena González-Blanco

El Jueves 24 de julio de 2014 21:04, Sara Sikes ssikes@masshist.org escribió:

In regards to a “directories group,” I’m on the DiRT editorial board and would be willing to act as a liaison with that group.   Sara S.   From:globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Alex Gil Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:49 PM To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's   Excellent. I agree we should bring her in. Right now we've been having the conversation in a smaller group, but I don't see any reason why we can't open it up to the larger group also for comment. In the spirit of openness, here's the metadata standard that I offered recently for discussion:   MINIMUM/REQUIRED ·  Project Title ·  Team/Individual ·  Production Site(s) ·  Type (TaDiRAH?) ·  Language(s) ·  Brief Description ·  Status (planning, alpha, active, preserved, etc) ·  URI   OPTIONAL ·  Dates ·  DiRT category (for tools)? ·  Media Assets ·  Subject ·  Contact Info ·  Referred By ·  Funding type ·  Production method ·  Notes   Some fields can take any data, others we felt we should have pre-determined categories. These are on a separate sheet in the excel file below. The categories with predetermined options are Type, Production method, Stages and Funding type.   What do you think?       On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Neil Fraistat nfraistat@gmail.com wrote: Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).   Best, Neil   On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everybody    For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .    e     2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.   Best Paul

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Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's   I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.   A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.   A.   On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's   Alex and all,   My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.   I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.   Best, Neil   On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote: Hi all,   I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.   My two cents, a.   On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote: Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika   On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

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Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

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[3]

I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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I am also on the DH Commons editorial board, so am happy to help facilitate on that end.

Best, Roopika

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

Excellent. I agree we should bring her in. Right now we've been having the conversation in a smaller group, but I don't see any reason why we can't open it up to the larger group also for comment. In the spirit of openness, here's the metadata standard that I offered recently for discussion:

MINIMUM/REQUIRED

• Project Title
• Team/Individual
• Production Site(s)
• Type (TaDiRAH?)
• Language(s)
• Brief Description
• Status (planning, alpha, active, preserved, etc)
• URI

OPTIONAL

• Dates
• DiRT category (for tools)?
• Media Assets
• Subject
• Contact Info
• Referred By
• Funding type
• Production method
• Notes

Some fields can take any data, others we felt we should have pre-determined categories. These are on a separate sheet in the excel file below. The categories with predetermined options are Type, Production method, Stages and Funding type.

What do you think?

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Neil Fraistat nfraistat@gmail.com wrote:

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Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

e

2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It's great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be

...

aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what 'global outlook' means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives - and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] *On Behalf Of *Alex Gil *Sent:* 24 July 2014 01:59 *To:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

*Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.com] *Sent:* July-23-14 11:44

*To:* globaloutlookdh-l, MailList *Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best,

Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents,

a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42

To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan's proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the "other-side" perspective. In fact, I'm just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

...

I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca wrote:

...

I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

> Hi all, > > Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative > in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is: > >

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

...

> [3] > > I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about > multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading > her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do! > > (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon). > > Cheers, > A. > > _______________________________________________ > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] > > You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This > means you receive every message as it is posted. > > If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in > DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing > the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You > can request a password reminder from this page if you have > forgotten yours.

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Hi Antonio,

I like the idea of institution, but I would add it to the optional list, given that in the global south scholarship happens outside of institutions at a higher rate than in the north. I've clumsily called this phenomenon 'citizen scholarship' in the past. If you're paying attention to Around DH in 80 days http://www.arounddh.org/, you will notice that several projects fall in that category and are hardly distinguishable from anything happening in the north atlantic academy. Of course, the phenomenon is not limited to the global south. Take a look at this, and this, and this.

Best, A.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM, ANTONIO ROJAS CASTRO < rojas.castro.antonio@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there,

It is an excellent proposal. I would add a kind of 'affiliation', 'institution' or 'university' field though. I believe a DH project *must* be a scholarly output. Otherwise we could collect data about digital projects developed by publishing houses or even journalists.

And what about an ISSN as an optional field?

All the best

2014-07-24 18:49 GMT+01:00 Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com:

Excellent. I agree we should bring her in. Right now we've been having the

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conversation in a smaller group, but I don't see any reason why we can't open it up to the larger group also for comment. In the spirit of openness, here's the metadata standard that I offered recently for discussion:

MINIMUM/REQUIRED

• Project Title
• Team/Individual
• Production Site(s)
• Type (TaDiRAH?)
• Language(s)
• Brief Description
• Status (planning, alpha, active, preserved, etc)
• URI

OPTIONAL

• Dates
• DiRT category (for tools)?
• Media Assets
• Subject
• Contact Info
• Referred By
• Funding type
• Production method
• Notes

Some fields can take any data, others we felt we should have pre-determined categories. These are on a separate sheet in the excel file below. The categories with predetermined options are Type, Production method, Stages and Funding type.

What do you think?

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Neil Fraistat nfraistat@gmail.com wrote:

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Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

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2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be

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aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best

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*From:* globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] *On Behalf Of *Alex Gil *Sent:* 24 July 2014 01:59 *To:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

*Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding.

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best,

Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents,

a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega elikaortega@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges.

And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism.

All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42

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Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on

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translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

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> I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission > to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on > PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles > about the organisation of the field. > > -dan > > On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative >> in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is: >> >> >

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

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>> [3] >> >> I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about >> multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading >> her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do! >> >> (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon). >> >> Cheers, >> A. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> globaloutlookdh-l mailing list >> globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca >> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] >> >> You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This >> means you receive every message as it is posted. >> >> If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in >> DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing >> the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to >> http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You >> can request a password reminder from this page if you have >> forgotten yours. > > -- > From my Ubuntu notebook > > Daniel Paul O'Donnell > Professor of English > University of Lethbridge > Lethbridge AB T1K 3M4 > Canada > > +1 403 393-2539 [4] > > _______________________________________________ > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] > > You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This > means you receive every message as it is posted. > > If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in > DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing the > entire day's postings. To change your settings go to > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You > can request a password reminder from this page if you have forgotten > yours.

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I agree with you that a lot of DH projects are happening outside the academy. But I don't think journalists are going to promote our "scholarly" work. For instance I went to the Big Bang Data http://bigbangdata.cccb.org/en/ exhibition here in Barcelona and most of it focused on data journalism. It was shocking to realize that DH projects developed by scholars were totally invisible to their eyes. Anyway it is just a suggestion.

Cheers

2014-07-25 15:35 GMT+01:00 Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com:

Oops. That email went out too fast. Here's one example of a project that is DH by any measure and that was produced in New York by John Resig http://ejohn.org/, aka, the guy who wrote jQuery:

http://ukiyo-e.org/

Cheers, a.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi Antonio,

I like the idea of institution, but I would add it to the optional list, given that in the global south scholarship happens outside of institutions at a higher rate than in the north. I've clumsily called this phenomenon 'citizen scholarship' in the past. If you're paying attention to Around DH in 80 days http://www.arounddh.org/, you will notice that several projects fall in that category and are hardly distinguishable from anything happening in the north atlantic academy. Of course, the phenomenon is not limited to the global south. Take a look at this, and this, and this.

Best, A.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:16 AM, ANTONIO ROJAS CASTRO < rojas.castro.antonio@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi there,

It is an excellent proposal. I would add a kind of 'affiliation', 'institution' or 'university' field though. I believe a DH project *must* be a scholarly output. Otherwise we could collect data about digital projects developed by publishing houses or even journalists.

And what about an ISSN as an optional field?

All the best

2014-07-24 18:49 GMT+01:00 Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com:

Excellent. I agree we should bring her in. Right now we've been having

...

the conversation in a smaller group, but I don't see any reason why we can't open it up to the larger group also for comment. In the spirit of openness, here's the metadata standard that I offered recently for discussion:

MINIMUM/REQUIRED

• Project Title
• Team/Individual
• Production Site(s)
• Type (TaDiRAH?)
• Language(s)
• Brief Description
• Status (planning, alpha, active, preserved, etc)
• URI

OPTIONAL

• Dates
• DiRT category (for tools)?
• Media Assets
• Subject
• Contact Info
• Referred By
• Funding type
• Production method
• Notes

Some fields can take any data, others we felt we should have pre-determined categories. These are on a separate sheet in the excel file below. The categories with predetermined options are Type, Production method, Stages and Funding type.

What do you think?

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Neil Fraistat nfraistat@gmail.com wrote:

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Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com wrote:

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Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

e

2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be > aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global > outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of > initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly > different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go > (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco > recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a > very good idea. > > > > Best > > Paul > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Paul Spence > > Senior Lecturer > > Department of Digital Humanities > > King's College London > > 26-29 Drury Lane > > London > > WC2B 5RL > > > > paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk > > http://www.kcl.ac.uk/artshums/depts/ddh/research/index.aspx > > Twitter: @dhpaulspence (English)/@hdpaulspence (castellano) > > > > *From:* globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] > *On Behalf Of *Alex Gil > *Sent:* 24 July 2014 01:59 > *To:* A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook > Community > > *Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's > > > > I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping > network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this > is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful. > > > > A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at > all, either. > > > > A. > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan < > daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: > > I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to > collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through > their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on > behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.com] > *Sent:* July-23-14 11:44 > > > *To:* globaloutlookdh-l, MailList > *Subject:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's > > > > Alex and all, > > > > My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to > register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that > service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be > enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH > Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the > not-too-distant future. > > > > I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to > work with GO::DH on this. > > > > Best, > > Neil > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation > commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, > etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on > the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional > networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a > register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition > overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at > a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data > system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata > standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then > have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a > better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate > around the world. > > > > My two cents, > > a. > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega < > elikaortega@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks! > > Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post! > > Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is > precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to > presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges. > > And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great > idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at > least on the part of multilingualism. > > All the best! > Élika > > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan < > daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: > > If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely > interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. > ________________________________________ > From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on > behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.es] > Sent: July-23-14 4:42 > > To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList > Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's > > Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post. > > I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to > participate > contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working > on > a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the > challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language > of > that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international > realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more > understandable. > > Warmly. > > Nuria > > > --- > Nuria Rodríguez Ortega > Directora Dpto. Historia del Arte > Universidad de Málaga > Facultad de Filosofía y Letras > Campus de Teatinos, s/n > Málaga, 29071 > Telf.: 952 132223 / 952131690 > Fax: 952 133441 > > --------------- > > Head, Art History Department > University of Málaga (Spain) > Facultad de Filosofía y Letras > Campus de Teatinos, s/n > Málaga, 29071 (Spain) > Phone: 00 34 952132223 / 952131690 > Fax: 00 34 952133441 > > On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote: > > I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." 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Dear all, this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or two quick consideration out of the box:

-a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the number of people walking around with the badge at the conference, which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing, I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with whispering and other on-site "tools".

- following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference, to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel, giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden, judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.

-speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction between local/regional and global, or something like that)

Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after, Giorgio

On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk wrote:

Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact that there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each other’s experiences.

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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Neil Fraistat Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani <epriani@gmail.commailto:epriani@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

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2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul <paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk>:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best Paul

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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Alex Gil Sent: 24 July 2014 01:59 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. ________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.commailto:nfraistat@gmail.com] Sent: July-23-14 11:44

To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega <elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.esmailto:nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

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Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

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I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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Sorry for jumping in so late into the discussion. At the RedHD we developed a database of DH projects and used Dublin Core fields with some adjustments for DH projects. I then worked with Quinn from DH Commons to map out the fields we were using to the DH Commons database. Our idea was to find a way so that the DH Commons would harvest our database periodically (as opposed to having a centralized system where we used the DH Commons interface to add new projects). We thought this could then be used as a prototype for other people around the world who had their own databases but wanted to contribute to a central database. And for those that didn't have their own system they could use the DH Commons one directly.

Quinn and I then both had babies and so the project was put on standby but I would be more than happy to provide the documentation that I have about the RedHD database and the mapping if this could be of use. I would also be interested in participating in this initiative. I don't know if Quinn is on this list.

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---------- Dra. Isabel Galina Russell Instituto de Investigaciones Bibliográficas, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM) igalina@unam.mx @igalina ________________________________ De: globaloutlookdh-l globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca en nombre de Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com Enviado: viernes, 25 de julio de 2014 09:52 a.m. Para: guzzettg@gmail.com; A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Giorgio about the option of rethinking the way the presentation are given. I had a little chat with Alex Gil in Lausana about the way in which the poster season could be multilingual. We don't go to far , but it`s posible to have the poste in spanish, for example, and material in other languages, or a whisper fellow helping you.

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2014-07-25 3:06 GMT-05:00 Giorgio Guzzetta <guzzettg@gmail.commailto:guzzettg@gmail.com>: Dear all, this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or two quick consideration out of the box:

-a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the number of people walking around with the badge at the conference, which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing, I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with whispering and other on-site "tools".

- following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference, to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel, giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden, judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.

-speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction between local/regional and global, or something like that)

Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after, Giorgio

On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul <paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk> wrote:

Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact that there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each other’s experiences.

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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Neil Fraistat Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani <epriani@gmail.commailto:epriani@gmail.com<mailto:epriani@gmail.commailto:epriani@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

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2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul <paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk<mailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk>>:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

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I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca>> wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. ________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca>] on behalf of Neil Fraistat [nfraistat@gmail.commailto:nfraistat@gmail.com<mailto:nfraistat@gmail.commailto:nfraistat@gmail.com>] Sent: July-23-14 11:44

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com<mailto:colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega <elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com<mailto:elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca>> wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca>] on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.esmailto:nro@uma.es<mailto:nro@uma.esmailto:nro@uma.es>] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca<mailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca>> wrote:

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

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Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

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I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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What a great week of so many stimulating exchanges!

I'm really excited to get things started for the Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit. I have started a google doc where we can begin drafting some of the ideas we've discussed here and elsewhere. Doc can be found here: Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit https://docs.google.com/document/d/13EMsxtibXrN2c49Z67xSwLArJKcxTN0YmBfDDjbHwfw/edit?usp=sharing.

Hope everyone has a great weekend! Élika

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

That sounds great, Isabel! I will move this conversation off this list, so those who want to talk about the DH whisperer's and translation toolkit can continue to do so.

I will start a new thread later this afternoon, with what has been said so far.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, igalina igalina@unam.mx wrote:

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Sorry for jumping in so late into the discussion. At the RedHD we developed a database of DH projects and used Dublin Core fields with some adjustments for DH projects. I then worked with Quinn from DH Commons to map out the fields we were using to the DH Commons database. Our idea was to find a way so that the DH Commons would harvest our database periodically (as opposed to having a centralized system where we used the DH Commons interface to add new projects). We thought this could then be used as a prototype for other people around the world who had their own databases but wanted to contribute to a central database. And for those that didn't have their own system they could use the DH Commons one directly.

Quinn and I then both had babies and so the project was put on standby but I would be more than happy to provide the documentation that I have about the RedHD database and the mapping if this could be of use. I would also be interested in participating in this initiative. I don't know if Quinn is on this list.

Best wishes,

Isabel

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*De:* globaloutlookdh-l globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca en nombre de Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com *Enviado:* viernes, 25 de julio de 2014 09:52 a.m. *Para:* guzzettg@gmail.com; A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community *Asunto:* Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Giorgio about the option of rethinking the way the presentation are given. I had a little chat with Alex Gil in Lausana about the way in which the poster season could be multilingual. We don't go to far , but it`s posible to have the poste in spanish, for example, and material in other languages, or a whisper fellow helping you.

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2014-07-25 3:06 GMT-05:00 Giorgio Guzzetta guzzettg@gmail.com:

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Dear all, this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or two quick consideration out of the box:

-a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the number of people walking around with the badge at the conference, which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing, I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with whispering and other on-site "tools".

• following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper

could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference, to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel, giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden, judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.

-speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction between local/regional and global, or something like that)

Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after, Giorgio

On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk wrote:

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Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact

that

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there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each other’s experiences.

P

From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Neil Fraistat Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't

have to

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be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel

Galina

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is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell

and

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Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani <epriani@gmail.commailto:epriani@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Everybody

For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be

part of

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that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

e

2014-07-24 3:04 GMT-05:00 Spence, Paul <paul.spence@kcl.ac.ukmailto:paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk>:

It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware

that

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it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global

outlook’

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means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from

slightly

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different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would

be a

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very good idea.

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On Behalf Of Alex Gil Sent: 24 July 2014 01:59 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping

network

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the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is

where

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the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH

through

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their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. ________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:

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To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service

well

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and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be

enhanced for

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registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and

DiRT

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will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to

work with

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GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil <colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera.

The

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other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task

of

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expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a

register of

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dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition

overnight,

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but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a

global

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stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system.

I have

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already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard

for DH

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project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way

to

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absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better

place to

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build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega <elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is

precisely

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the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to

presentations that

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are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great

idea. I

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wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least

on

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the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l [globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca<mailto:

globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca>]

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on behalf of Nuria Rodríguez Ortega [nro@uma.esmailto:nro@uma.es] Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to

participate

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contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

Nuria

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On 22.07.2014 19:43, Alex Gil wrote:

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Daniel O'Donnell <daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote:

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

-dan

On 14-07-22 08:49 AM, Alex Gil wrote:

> Hi all, > > Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative > in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is: > >

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

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> [3] > > I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about > multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading > her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do! > > (A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon). > > Cheers, > A. > > _______________________________________________ > globaloutlookdh-l mailing list > globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.camailto:globaloutlookdh-l@uleth.ca > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/listinfo/globaloutlookdh-l [1] > > You are currently subscribed to this list in NON-digest mode. This > means you receive every message as it is posted. > > If this represents too much traffic, you can also subscribe in > DIGEST mode. This sends out a single email once a day containing > the entire day's postings. To change your settings go to > http://listserv.uleth.ca/mailman/options/globaloutlookdh-l [2] You > can request a password reminder from this page if you have > forgotten yours.

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Hi Mari,

Sounds like you're already trying some good stuff. We're working on the "translation toolkit" now, and that will have the power-point idea, the whispering, pre-circulation of papers, and many more goodies. The best idea I'm looking forward to trying is the GoogleDoc shared document. We keep trying with the knowledge that it's all a combination of good sense, creativity and what you call "some extra work and will by the presenter," but also from the audience.

Remember, we won't always succeed. That's ok. We will many times.

a.

On 7/28/14, Mari Sarv mari@haldjas.folklore.ee wrote:

Dear all,

the work you all have done is fantastic. The inclusion politics of the DH community including the multilinguality of the events is exceptional contributing to the cultural and linguistic diversity in the (DH) world.

I have the question on the scale. Which would be the critical percentage of language speakers on the event to have the paper in that language?

As for me, to have paper in Estonian on an event like dh2014 would be nonsens. I asked a belgian presenter about speaking in dutch and he seemed to feel the same (although I would have enjoyed, with dutch being one of the few languages I could probably follow). How do you feel?

My experience with organizing multilingual conferences has had somewhat unclear results. There is a common archaic song tradition shared by the speakers of related languages (Baltic-Finnic languages - a branch of the Finno-Ugric language group) - Finns, Estonians and several smaller ethnic groups living in the territory of Russia. It seemed totally absurd to keep the international conferences on this old tradition in English. Although the languages (Estonian, Finnish, Votic, Ingrian, Karelian) are related, these are not mutually totally understandable. The researchers are living in Estonia, Finland and Russia, accordingly with three different academic languages.

Estonian researchers mostly understand both of the other languages, Finnish and Russian researchers not so much. As we did not want to switch to English, but still were willing to include the Finnish (and occasionally Russian researchers) we have tried the whispering, but it did not work out. Too much information was lost, and actually there were not so many people among the audience qualified and willing to translate all the time. The experience with (thorough and detailed) slides in another language is much better, but this works in the case of two languages or if there is main common language, and it would require some extra work and will by the presenter. As a result with our trials we (as well as finns) have ended up with using the expensive and somewhat uncomfortable simultaneous translation via the translation system, securing that the content of papers reaches to all the listeners. It would be much cheaper and easier to keep the conferences in English, but that is what we do not want to do because of the material we are dealing with.

Most of the Estonian DH projects I am aware of do not have any English interface or introduction, as there is no proper target group for that - for dealing with Estonian materials/collections one should anyway understand Estonian, and it would have no sense to translate only the interface whereas all the content remains ununderstandable. Translation would mean money which we usually do not have too much for humanities projects.

All the best,

Mari

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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Élika Ortega Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:49 PM To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

What a great week of so many stimulating exchanges!

I'm really excited to get things started for the Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit. I have started a google doc where we can begin drafting some of the ideas we've discussed here and elsewhere. Doc can be found here: Multilingualism and Translation Toolkit https://docs.google.com/document/d/13EMsxtibXrN2c49Z67xSwLArJKcxTN0YmBfDDjbHwfw/edit?usp=sharing .

Hope everyone has a great weekend! Élika

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Alex Gil colibri.alex@gmail.com wrote:

That sounds great, Isabel! I will move this conversation off this list, so those who want to talk about the DH whisperer's and translation toolkit can continue to do so.

I will start a new thread later this afternoon, with what has been said so far.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:20 PM, igalina igalina@unam.mx wrote:

Sorry for jumping in so late into the discussion. At the RedHD we developed a database of DH projects and used Dublin Core fields with some adjustments for DH projects. I then worked with Quinn from DH Commons to map out the fields we were using to the DH Commons database. Our idea was to find a way so that the DH Commons would harvest our database periodically (as opposed to having a centralized system where we used the DH Commons interface to add new projects). We thought this could then be used as a prototype for other people around the world who had their own databases but wanted to contribute to a central database. And for those that didn't have their own system they could use the DH Commons one directly.

Quinn and I then both had babies and so the project was put on standby but I would be more than happy to provide the documentation that I have about the RedHD database and the mapping if this could be of use. I would also be interested in participating in this initiative. I don't know if Quinn is on this list.

Best wishes,

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De: globaloutlookdh-l globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca en nombre de Ernesto Priani epriani@gmail.com Enviado: viernes, 25 de julio de 2014 09:52 a.m. Para: guzzettg@gmail.com; A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Asunto: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Giorgio about the option of rethinking the way the presentation are given. I had a little chat with Alex Gil in Lausana about the way in which the poster season could be multilingual. We don't go to far , but it`s posible to have the poste in spanish, for example, and material in other languages, or a whisper fellow helping you.

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2014-07-25 3:06 GMT-05:00 Giorgio Guzzetta guzzettg@gmail.com:

Dear all, this post-Lausanne discussion seems very interesting, and I willing to engage with it more once I come back in my "office" in August. One or two quick consideration out of the box:

-a full-sided discussion regarding Conference tools for multilingualism (but not only, in my view) should be done. The Whispering project in fact was indeed successful (if only for the number of people walking around with the badge at the conference, which was exhilarating in itself), but is only one side of the thing, I believe. Nuria's post on delivering in a non-english language would be very interesting in this regard, and the idea of tweeting or using a collaborative google doc to mediate between languages is also interesting. I am wondering though if we could/should not go one step further and rethink the whole Conference idea, keeping the focus on multiculturalism and alternative ways of delivering. Who says, for instance, that the audience has to listen to paper" blindly" like it was in the traditional conferences? My ideal conference panel would be one in which material is shared before hand and the 15 minutes talk could be used as guidelines to provoke a discussion rather than full-blown papers (with internet this could be done quite easily). One part, substantial perhaps, of this pre-conference material could be aimed at facilitating non-native speaker, and it could be linked with whispering and other on-site "tools".

• following on this, perhaps the whole process of selection of paper

could be analysed and re-shaped. I don't exactly know how it works at the moment, but I just mention two random ideas (if something similar is already happening, I apologise) that could be discussed: first, why not opening up, at a certain stage, i.e. after a first filtering eliminating the papers that clearly are not suitable for a conference, to a "crowdsourced" pairing of individual papers in ad hoc panel, giving access to the list of paper and abstract and asking people to propose connections, and even contact other potential co-panelists, in order to have more connected and more pre-organised panel instead of simply juxtaposing papers and speakers from above? It is true that a global conference is important also for serendipitous and unexpected discoveries, but my impression is also that, with more than seven hundreds participants and four days of conference, this unexpected discoveries are becoming too random and perhaps it could be better to open up the serendipitous moment into the preparation of the conference itself. And, last but not least, it might make easier and more fun the process of reviewing proposals, which is always a burden, judging from the continuous and desperate call for reviewers. In short, maybe we should think of more sustainable and "creative" ways of organising and shaping the conference, aiming at a more participate, crowdsourced, and multilingual/multicultural process.

-speaking of metadata for DH projects and tools etc., perhaps we should add something regarding (proposed, aimed) audience, which is an issue that should not be overlooked, in its cultural and linguistic implications (not too speak of socio/geo-political, which are messier than ever). I think Elika wrote something about it (the distinction between local/regional and global, or something like that)

Thanks everybody for what you did in Lausanne and after, Giorgio

On 7/25/14, Spence, Paul paul.spence@kcl.ac.uk wrote:

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Sure Neil, and I think DH Commons is great. Just highlighting the fact that there are multiple overlapping initiatives, which may benefit from each other’s experiences.

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From: globaloutlookdh-l [mailto:globaloutlookdh-l-bounces@uleth.ca] On Behalf Of Neil Fraistat Sent: 24 July 2014 18:36 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

Agreed--and I also agree with Paul's point that DH Commons doesn't have to be the only show in town. I do want to mention, though, that Isabel Galina is one of the three Co-Editors of DH Commons (along with Ryan Cordell and Laurent Romary).

Best, Neil

On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Ernesto Priani

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For the RedHD site Isabel Galina developed something that could be part of that minimal metadata standard to organize the DH project in Mexico. It would be interesting to consider it in the discussion. .

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It’s great if DH Commons takes this on, but I think we should be aware that it may not be the only show in town (we might think what ‘global outlook’ means in practical terms here) - I am vaguely aware of a number of initiatives which are interested in this kind of data, each from slightly different perspectives – and that infrastructure projects come and go (sadly). So that minimal metadata standard, which Elena González-Blanco recently suggested in an exchange with Alex and a group of us, would be a very good idea.

Best Paul

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On Behalf Of Alex Gil Sent: 24 July 2014 01:59 To: A list for participants in the ADHO DH Global Outlook Community

Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's

I agree with Neil. I think where we can be most useful is in helping network the collectives that could keep the directory current. I think this is where the minimal metadata standard would be useful.

A DSCN+DHCommons collaboration, of course, does not sound bad at all, either.

A.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:28 PM, O'Donnell, Dan

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<daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: I wonder if it might not be a cool idea for DSCN and DH Commons to collaborate on the idea of supporting globalisation research in DH through their different models. A good use of ADHO funding. ________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l

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Alex and all,

My own sense is that DH Commons would be the right platform to register projects across the globe, since it is already performing that service well and could easily be enhanced, and that DiRT could similarly be enhanced for registering tools. There is an excellent chance that DH Commons and DiRT will be sharing data with each other in the not-too-distant future.

I'm sure that the editors of these resources would be delighted to work with GO::DH on this.

Best, Neil

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Alex Gil

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<colibri.alex@gmail.commailto:colibri.alex@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,

I see two possible groups here. A revamping of the translation commons tackling the multilingualism question, working on the toolkit, etcera. The other group would be a 'directory' group, which could take on the task of expanding the work of #arounddh, working with the regional networks, individual channels, etc. to start the lofty work of creating a register of dh projects and teams. I don't see this work coming to fruition overnight, but continuing the work of DHCommons, MapaHD, DiRT and others at a global stage. We could start informally, building a rudimentary data system. I have already been working with the former on a minimal metadata standard for DH project data exchange. We could push the standard and then have a way to absorb projects coming up. That said, DHCommons might be a better place to build the data system, and we could simply help coordinate around the world.

My two cents, a.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Élika Ortega

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<elikaortega@gmail.commailto:elikaortega@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks!

Nuria, I really look forward to reading your post!

Øyvind, yes, exactly! The most appealing aspect of all of this is precisely the discovery of new scholarship--being able to listen to presentations that are beyond our linguistic knowledges. And Dan, yes, a multilingualism/inclusivity working group is a great idea. I wonder if it could be a revamping of the Translation Commons, at least on the part of multilingualism. All the best! Élika

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM, O'Donnell, Dan

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<daniel.odonnell@uleth.camailto:daniel.odonnell@uleth.ca> wrote: If we wanted, I think I can say that Digital Studies would extremely interested in a special cluster of articles on this topic. ________________________________________ From: globaloutlookdh-l

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Sent: July-23-14 4:42 To: globaloutlookdh-l, MailList Subject: Re: [globaloutlookDH-l] DH Whisperer's Thank you, Élika, for this inspiring post.

I completely agree with Dan’s proposal and would be happy to participate contributing the “other-side” perspective. In fact, I’m just working on a post about this initiative as experienced by the speaker facing the challenge of delivering his/her presentation in a different language of that commonly accepted as lingua franca in this sort of international realms: from the decision making to the strategies to become more understandable.

Warmly.

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I agree. Might be part of a "best practices toolkit." I'm working on a translation software and strategies workshop and would be happy to contribute also.

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I think an article based on this blog would be a great submission to DS/CN. We are thinking of introducing an article series based on PLoS Biology's "Community" series, where people write meta-articles about the organisation of the field.

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Hi all,

Elika Ortega wrote a great post on our "DH Whisperer" initiative in DH2014, Lausanne. If you haven't seen it already here it is:

http://lectoresdeficcion.blogs.cultureplex.ca/2014/07/21/dhwhisperer/

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I think her thoughts are a very good example on thinking about multi-lingualism while engaging in translation practices. Reading her post, I was reminded how much there is still to learn and do!

(A full report on our activities at DH2014 is coming soon).

Cheers, A.

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